All season tire choice Michelin Primacy mxm4 or Conti DWS?
#1
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All season tire choice Michelin Primacy mxm4 or Conti DWS?
Hey folks,
I have the choice between the two for my future set up 245/40/19's. I have heard great things about the Continental DWS for snowy conditions and was set to go in that direction.
I can save a few buck per tire and get a Michelin Primacy MXM4 A/S? I haven't seen much on these and couldn't find any comparison tests for the above purposes.
Anyone have any experience with the MXM4's in winter conditions comparable to DWS?
Let me know.. Thanks
I have the choice between the two for my future set up 245/40/19's. I have heard great things about the Continental DWS for snowy conditions and was set to go in that direction.
I can save a few buck per tire and get a Michelin Primacy MXM4 A/S? I haven't seen much on these and couldn't find any comparison tests for the above purposes.
Anyone have any experience with the MXM4's in winter conditions comparable to DWS?
Let me know.. Thanks
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rm,
I have owned both of the tire types you have mentioned. However the mxm4 were not on my G37, they were on a fwd Honda Accord. I liked both brands, but I really thought the Michelin mxm4 were all-season cruising tires, while the Conti's were more performance focused. Maybe I am wrong on that. Either way, I love the ExtremeContact DWS tires on my G37 convertible...smooth, quiet, and no problems when driven hard (or as hard as a convertible drivers goes).
I read online that some owners reviewed the sidewalls as too soft for aggressive cornering, but I have not run into that at all.
Also, the mxm4's began to wear rapidly once they were at their half-life of tread depth.
I have owned both of the tire types you have mentioned. However the mxm4 were not on my G37, they were on a fwd Honda Accord. I liked both brands, but I really thought the Michelin mxm4 were all-season cruising tires, while the Conti's were more performance focused. Maybe I am wrong on that. Either way, I love the ExtremeContact DWS tires on my G37 convertible...smooth, quiet, and no problems when driven hard (or as hard as a convertible drivers goes).
I read online that some owners reviewed the sidewalls as too soft for aggressive cornering, but I have not run into that at all.
Also, the mxm4's began to wear rapidly once they were at their half-life of tread depth.
#3
I currently have the MXM4 on my wife's G. There is no winter here so I can't say how they perform in cold conditions. They are quiet and get decent treadwear. They are good in the wet. They aren't a performance tire, they're a grand touring tire. I agree wit ATLcple that the sidewall are too soft. They aren't bad tires, but they're not a performance tire. I won't buy them again. I'll switch to the Pilot Sport AS/3.
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hmm I was reading some reviews where the Conti DWS sidewall was soft.
I am looking for an upgrade from the stock dunlop sp sportmaxx for both winter(horrible) and summer (ok). Sidewall softness is a pet peeve of mine.. I hate that squirrly feeling
I am looking for an upgrade from the stock dunlop sp sportmaxx for both winter(horrible) and summer (ok). Sidewall softness is a pet peeve of mine.. I hate that squirrly feeling
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I currently own both. I drive the Michelin Primacy in stock configuration during the winters and the DWS staggered 245-40-19 and 275-35-19 on my G7x in the summer. I am happy with both. The DWS are much rougher than the Michelin, but that is due to the size difference,
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Tire Rack even says this. But yes, they do have softer sidewalls and less road feel than other tires out there. Going from the OEM Goodyears to the Contis I lost a significant amount of steering feel and that immediate turn-in feeling. If you don't like this - I wouldn't recommend the Contis. They are great in the Winter in light snow conditions (esp with AWD car) and handle rain excellent, but their dry performance leaves a bit to be desired IMHO.
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Tire Rack even says this. But yes, they do have softer sidewalls and less road feel than other tires out there. Going from the OEM Goodyears to the Contis I lost a significant amount of steering feel and that immediate turn-in feeling. If you don't like this - I wouldn't recommend the Contis. They are great in the Winter in light snow conditions (esp with AWD car) and handle rain excellent, but their dry performance leaves a bit to be desired IMHO.
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I've had the DWS on my previous car, and my gf has the MXM4 A/S on her TSX. They are both good tires, but I wouldn't pay extra for the MXM4 and I feel like the DWS has less road noise, better ride comfort, and is better in the snow. These were both on ~200hp FWD cars so it's a relatively fair comparison. The DWS tires I had were a lower profile (225/40R18) and I still feel they were better in the snow than the MXM4 in the larger 225/50R17 size.
#9
Let me start by saying this, I really liked the Conti DWS tires on my last G. Yes, the sidewalls are soft, but the tire also weighs less too. You will get a little of the squirrly feeling you're talking about. I noticed it right away, but I'll tell you something, if you can get over the initial 1 degree of extra roll, the tires are pretty great for all seasons. I have the Michelin tires you're talking about on an accord, I'll second someone else for saying this but they're definitely not comparable to the DWS. If the performance is that important to you, then you will be better off buying Michelin PSS for your summer use and Blizzaks for your winter use. All season tires might as well be no season tires; if you don't want compromise, that's the route you should go.
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I currently have the MXM4 on my wife's G. There is no winter here so I can't say how they perform in cold conditions. They are quiet and get decent treadwear. They are good in the wet. They aren't a performance tire, they're a grand touring tire. I agree wit ATLcple that the sidewall are too soft. They aren't bad tires, but they're not a performance tire. I won't buy them again. I'll switch to the Pilot Sport AS/3.
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On the forums you see people raving about the DWS tires about how good they are for a well rounded balance. I am up sizing my rims and tires and I live in the northeast which gets hammered with snow and we are soon transitioning seasons. I Currently can't justify dedicated summers which is why I want a good mix of both. The DWS have been said to handle snows very well and Perhaps even upgrade from stock in handling in some reports.
I never trust tire rack as the fitament reviews are never equivalent.
I never trust tire rack as the fitament reviews are never equivalent.
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sorry for reviving an older thread, but was hoping a few others could chime in.
i want to replace the noisy dunlop sportmaxx on my g37x coupe base model and am looking at these 2 tires.
my previous car, a 2013 accord coupe v6, had the michelin mxm4 tires and i thought they were pretty good. i pushed the car hard at times and the tires never did not inspire confidence and felt very responsive. my previous car to that, i had a 2007 nissan 350z which i had the stock tires replaced with continental dws. first thing i noticed was the really soft sidewall. the 350z felt floaty and squirrely.
with that being said, is the sidewall on the dws still really soft? are they still stiffer than the sidewall on the mxm4? comfort and noise level are a priority with the new replacement tires, but i definitely do not want that floaty tire feel i had with the 350z and the dws. thanks for any input.
i want to replace the noisy dunlop sportmaxx on my g37x coupe base model and am looking at these 2 tires.
my previous car, a 2013 accord coupe v6, had the michelin mxm4 tires and i thought they were pretty good. i pushed the car hard at times and the tires never did not inspire confidence and felt very responsive. my previous car to that, i had a 2007 nissan 350z which i had the stock tires replaced with continental dws. first thing i noticed was the really soft sidewall. the 350z felt floaty and squirrely.
with that being said, is the sidewall on the dws still really soft? are they still stiffer than the sidewall on the mxm4? comfort and noise level are a priority with the new replacement tires, but i definitely do not want that floaty tire feel i had with the 350z and the dws. thanks for any input.
#13
sorry for reviving an older thread, but was hoping a few others could chime in.
i want to replace the noisy dunlop sportmaxx on my g37x coupe base model and am looking at these 2 tires.
my previous car, a 2013 accord coupe v6, had the michelin mxm4 tires and i thought they were pretty good. i pushed the car hard at times and the tires never did not inspire confidence and felt very responsive. my previous car to that, i had a 2007 nissan 350z which i had the stock tires replaced with continental dws. first thing i noticed was the really soft sidewall. the 350z felt floaty and squirrely.
with that being said, is the sidewall on the dws still really soft? are they still stiffer than the sidewall on the mxm4? comfort and noise level are a priority with the new replacement tires, but i definitely do not want that floaty tire feel i had with the 350z and the dws. thanks for any input.
i want to replace the noisy dunlop sportmaxx on my g37x coupe base model and am looking at these 2 tires.
my previous car, a 2013 accord coupe v6, had the michelin mxm4 tires and i thought they were pretty good. i pushed the car hard at times and the tires never did not inspire confidence and felt very responsive. my previous car to that, i had a 2007 nissan 350z which i had the stock tires replaced with continental dws. first thing i noticed was the really soft sidewall. the 350z felt floaty and squirrely.
with that being said, is the sidewall on the dws still really soft? are they still stiffer than the sidewall on the mxm4? comfort and noise level are a priority with the new replacement tires, but i definitely do not want that floaty tire feel i had with the 350z and the dws. thanks for any input.
#14
I had the conti dws on my Subaru for 4 years and it handle very well...even in the winter.
My brother installed the dws on his 10 Camry se right before winter and he told me it handle a lot better than the Michelin tires.
My brother installed the dws on his 10 Camry se right before winter and he told me it handle a lot better than the Michelin tires.
#15
Two different tires completely. The Michelin is a touring all season tire focused around comfort/ride/quiet not so much sportiness/handling. DWS is more sport bred and will handle better with more response around corners. The DWS is a great Jack of All Trades tire in that they have good all season traction, can take some aggressive driving, decent life etc. It's a popular choice in the G world.