JMS2000

Somebody's high alright...

Well, you guys can buy what you want, but IMO summer tires just don't grip well in wet conditions. I feel like I have to drive much slower than I should have to, or risk traction loss. But this is off topic, since the OP was providing information about a new all-season tire option. Thanks for sharing.

Rochester

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Whoops, there it is.

I drove for 8 summers on Goodyear Eagle F1 tires with my last car, and they were amazing in the rain. Total confidence. Please use Teh Google, because your advice about summer-only tires is inaccurate. Saying "as soon as it rains you're SOL" is hyperbole worthy of FOX, hence the Billo Bird.

Here's a good explanation: Tire Review - Weighing Summer vs. All-Season UHP Tires

Basically, the softer compound in 3-season tires is far superior in wet-road driving than the compound used in 4-season tires. The only comparison that changes this analysis is high-water driving, where the car can hydroplane because the tread can't displace water fast enough due to volume exceeding design. In these rare cases, the tread-design wins, regardless of seasonal intent or compound.

And it's nothing personal... opine all you want, just don't make up facts.

philter25

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I just drove through the summer storm we had yesterday with my pilot Super sports. Flood warnings, downpours, etc. I had no problem with the summer slicks.

However, with ANY tire you need to consider your conditions and drive appropriately. I dont change my driving style with mild rain, but when the downpours start to happen, most people drive a little slower. Your limiting factor is usually YOUR ability to react due to decreased visibility, not any limitation with tires.

And IMO, the best combination will always be a set of dedicated summer tires and dedicated winter tires. But for those who dont like the hassle of 2 sets, the A/S'3s look very promising. Im looking forward to seeing the winter reviews of the A/S3s. In Maryland, we got only a handful of snow last year and most of my driving was just in cold conditions. So for southern states, the A/S3 as a one-size-fits-all where they dont see the northern winters might perfectly fit the bill.

Goonz

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hopefully these will be quieter than the dreadful stock dunlop A/S...VOMIT

ErikM

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+1 on the crappy OE Dunlops.. My decision this fall will be on either the new Pilot A/S 3 or the Primacy MXM4.. The Primacys I've had, and they are super quiet, smooth, stick like snot wet and dry and even do well in light snow.. If the new AS are even better that's what I'll get, otherwise MXM4's for me..

crazjayz

No, seriously, Rochester is right. Summer tires have MUCH better performance in the wet. They only on suffer in performance when you're getting close to freezing. Check out what Tirerack has to say about best wet performing tires.

I ran the stock Goodyear RS-A for a year before I switched over to the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus, just because I go snowboarding every once in a while. Didn't want crap grip up in the mountains. But honestly, after not taking my G for the past 2 seasons, my next set is going to be the PSS. Much better performance overall.

These A/S 3's look nice if you live in an area that gets close to freezing/snow, but don't like a true winter tire. Though, personally, if I lived in an area that gets snow, I wouldn't want to compromise my safety. I'd just opt for the best summer and best winter tires and switch them accordingly.

JMS2000

No worries, nothing personal taken. I have more important things to worry about . But I do think your responses were very immature. I was just stating my opinion based on my experiences with summer tires, hence the IMO. But for some reason you found the need to jump all over me with nonsensical posts and poor references to topics that are completely irrelevant, and that was poor form. The OP posted information for those interested in A/S tires and I don't recall anyone asking you for your preference otherwise. But like I said, you can buy whatever you want, it's your money.

Rochester

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The important thing here is that you learned something about tires, so that you don't keep repeating misinformation.

JMS2000

Yeah, it's been educational, thanks.

InfiG37xS

According to Tirerack, it will be avialable around 7/12/13.

Michelin*Pilot Sport A/S 3 (H- or V-Speed Rated)

ErikM

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$155.00 each?? that's gotta be wrong..

ErikM

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Wow I'm wrong.. Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 (H- or V-Speed Rated)

MalbecG37S

Well - they seem to be priced nicely.

$155 for the front...$195 for the rear. $700 for the matched set (G37S)

Having said that - they are only $90 cheaper (in total) when compared to the PSS...

Rochester

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That's lunch for four, tax, tip... but no drinks.

blnewt

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Actually those RS-As are a no-season tire, I can't think of a season where they weren't total crap. The only real downfall w/ summer tires in the rain is the wear factor since sticky summer treads typically wear so fast they're effectiveness in rain at half tread life can get a bit scary, and often times that's only 6-8 months into the tires' life.