Best Tire Size for Stock Wheels
03-15-2013, 02:08 PM
#31
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IDK, really. Good, academic question. Someone will spend 20 minutes with Google and report back, I'm sure.
03-15-2013, 03:11 PM
#32
By actual rotation, he must mean dismounting all four tires from the rims and re-mounting & balancing them front to back. Since few people have free access to such equipment, that seems counter-productive to the budget priority of maximizing tread life. But yes, if the tires were all the same size, you theoretically could rotate them, even on staggered rims. Not that I would do it.
And Sniper, the staggered OEM rims on oliveview's RWD-Sport Sedan are 7.5" wide in the front, 8.5" wide in the rear.
And Sniper, the staggered OEM rims on oliveview's RWD-Sport Sedan are 7.5" wide in the front, 8.5" wide in the rear.
Discount Tire will do it for free. They always have. Just like they will patch a punctured tire, for free. They rock! They're one of the best companies (in any line of business) I have ever dealt with, and I will always take my new tire business to them.
I tend to get on the rears a little, being that the car can over-steer so nicely. So, I'm running the back smooth, but the fronts have tons of life left. If it didn't diminish the performance to have slightly wide tires in front, I'd rather be able to do that. But if no one here is running theirs that way, then I'm not likely going to be able to get empirical responses.
03-15-2013, 03:48 PM
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Hmm. That's about $25/corner at my dealership. Or another way to look at it, $200+ year when doing it twice.
Not so. There are people here who stretch snow tires to fit the 8.5" rears, because most standard Snow & Ice tires don't come in the OEM size for our 18" rears. At least, that's how I remember the conversations. To your point, does anyone go the *other* way, which is put larger tires on the 7.5" wide rims? That I don't know. But I'm 100% sure people have but the smaller tires on the wider 8.5" rims.
So you can do that, I suppose.
So you can do that, I suppose.
03-15-2013, 04:07 PM
#34
^ yup, i have 225s on the staggered rears for my 2nd set of winter wheels/tires, with no problem. lots of rim protector showing so the "stretch" is very minimal. can hardly tell the difference. it looks just like what the OE coupe setup was on the G35 front 19" sport rims. those OE tires were undersized (width) by 1/2" as well.
as for 245s on the 7.5" fronts, it would bulge a little bit, but likely not a lot. i'm sure someone has done it. my only concern with a bit of bulge on the fronts is that it could lead to softer turn-in response. that might be a factor to consider, especially considering it's the fronts that oliveview is talking about now.
as for 245s on the 7.5" fronts, it would bulge a little bit, but likely not a lot. i'm sure someone has done it. my only concern with a bit of bulge on the fronts is that it could lead to softer turn-in response. that might be a factor to consider, especially considering it's the fronts that oliveview is talking about now.
03-15-2013, 04:53 PM
#35
Hmm. That's about $25/corner at my dealership. Or another way to look at it, $200+ year when doing it twice.
Not so. There are people here who stretch snow tires to fit the 8.5" rears, because most standard Snow & Ice tires don't come in the OEM size for our 18" rears. At least, that's how I remember the conversations. To your point, does anyone go the *other* way, which is put larger tires on the 7.5" wide rims? That I don't know. But I'm 100% sure people have but the smaller tires on the wider 8.5" rims.
So you can do that, I suppose.
Not so. There are people here who stretch snow tires to fit the 8.5" rears, because most standard Snow & Ice tires don't come in the OEM size for our 18" rears. At least, that's how I remember the conversations. To your point, does anyone go the *other* way, which is put larger tires on the 7.5" wide rims? That I don't know. But I'm 100% sure people have but the smaller tires on the wider 8.5" rims.
So you can do that, I suppose.
03-15-2013, 04:55 PM
#36
^ yup, i have 225s on the staggered rears for my 2nd set of winter wheels/tires, with no problem. lots of rim protector showing so the "stretch" is very minimal. can hardly tell the difference. it looks just like what the OE coupe setup was on the G35 front 19" sport rims. those OE tires were undersized (width) by 1/2" as well.
as for 245s on the 7.5" fronts, it would bulge a little bit, but likely not a lot. i'm sure someone has done it. my only concern with a bit of bulge on the fronts is that it could lead to softer turn-in response. that might be a factor to consider, especially considering it's the fronts that oliveview is talking about now.
as for 245s on the 7.5" fronts, it would bulge a little bit, but likely not a lot. i'm sure someone has done it. my only concern with a bit of bulge on the fronts is that it could lead to softer turn-in response. that might be a factor to consider, especially considering it's the fronts that oliveview is talking about now.
03-15-2013, 05:40 PM
#37
I'm telling you, at least out here in SoCal, Discount Tire (technically, I think they're called America's Tire now...) is just remarkable. I have used them for the past 20+ years, without fail. They have always been great. Regardless of what tires I get to replace the current ones on the G, it'll certainly be from them.
03-15-2013, 05:55 PM
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I personally think that taking the tires on and off the rims for rotation is for the birds. It's expensive in most places (perhaps except SoCal - had a flat on a rental repaired there for $25 last spring, less than a drink in the bar in LA! Would have been at least double that anywhere else). If you drive your car like it should be driven you'll probably wear the tires down long before they go uneven.
Not to mention that someone is likely to muck up your rims in the shop when they pry the tires off and chip off the wheel weights with a screwdriver and hammer...
I'm pretty sure the reason for staggered tires is so the car handles properly and oversteers just the right amount. Best to leave the RWD staggered setup as-is or pretty close.
Not to mention that someone is likely to muck up your rims in the shop when they pry the tires off and chip off the wheel weights with a screwdriver and hammer...
I'm pretty sure the reason for staggered tires is so the car handles properly and oversteers just the right amount. Best to leave the RWD staggered setup as-is or pretty close.
03-15-2013, 06:23 PM
#39
I did have them patch a tire about six-months ago. Totally free, and they took the tire off to do a high-quality patch from the inside.
03-15-2013, 06:27 PM
#40
I personally think that taking the tires on and off the rims for rotation is for the birds. It's expensive in most places (perhaps except SoCal - had a flat on a rental repaired there for $25 last spring, less than a drink in the bar in LA! Would have been at least double that anywhere else). If you drive your car like it should be driven you'll probably wear the tires down long before they go uneven.
Not to mention that someone is likely to muck up your rims in the shop when they pry the tires off and chip off the wheel weights with a screwdriver and hammer...
I'm pretty sure the reason for staggered tires is so the car handles properly and oversteers just the right amount. Best to leave the RWD staggered setup as-is or pretty close.
Not to mention that someone is likely to muck up your rims in the shop when they pry the tires off and chip off the wheel weights with a screwdriver and hammer...
I'm pretty sure the reason for staggered tires is so the car handles properly and oversteers just the right amount. Best to leave the RWD staggered setup as-is or pretty close.
But, most important to me, is having the car perform as designed, and so if that means keeping the staggered tire dimensions, to go with the staggered rime dimensions. That's just fine.
03-15-2013, 06:40 PM
#41
in the winter a narrower tire is beneficial for contact pressure, within reason. and a suitable tire is one with a healthy rim protector strip. the Conti DWS come with a great one. even on the 225, it provides much more protection than the 245 tire that was on there before. every tire has different cross sectional properties.
03-15-2013, 07:47 PM
#42
in the winter a narrower tire is beneficial for contact pressure, within reason. and a suitable tire is one with a healthy rim protector strip. the Conti DWS come with a great one. even on the 225, it provides much more protection than the 245 tire that was on there before. every tire has different cross sectional properties.
And thanks for the quick education on winter tires. Being a SoCal native, weather has never been something I've had to worry about.
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