To spacer or not....?
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b2autodesigns (03-10-2014)
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You've got this thread here, might as well document it, eh?
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I was on B&G S2 springs, tires were about 1/4" under fender lip, about a
2 1/8"" drop. You should have a much easier time w/ your Swifts.
This pic is without the spacer, I didn't take any spacer pics as I didn't keep them on more than a couple hours
#20
Spacer came in today, but Mother Nature has put a dampening on us here in New England...more *&%#in' snow!
There really isn't anything to it, but to bolt on the spacers and then bolt the wheels onto the spacer...making sure everything is torqued down correctly.
Here is a video of B2Design installing the spacers:
Will be bringing it to RW&T on Saturday and John will install them then.
I'll take some detail pics of the install.
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Little late to reply but~
I was on B&G S2 springs, tires were about 1/4" under fender lip, about a
2 1/8"" drop. You should have a much easier time w/ your Swifts.
This pic is without the spacer, I didn't take any spacer pics as I didn't keep them on more than a couple hours
I was on B&G S2 springs, tires were about 1/4" under fender lip, about a
2 1/8"" drop. You should have a much easier time w/ your Swifts.
This pic is without the spacer, I didn't take any spacer pics as I didn't keep them on more than a couple hours
Thanks for sharing.
I would think with the 17mm spacer installed it would rub...?
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So... there's enough clearance for the OEM studs against the back of the OEM Sport Rims? Obviously you've researched this, so that's probably a dumb question.
#23
On my FX I had 20mm spacers that would require to remove and replace the bolts with the supplied extended ones from H&R, but after researching I decided that going with the one piece attached bolt spacers will be the ideal set up for me on the G...at the end of the lease, it will be easier to remove.
Clearance shouldn't be an issue...everything should be a nice fit.
No question is dumb!
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Thanks, dragion.
I know you ordered the 20mm spacers, but did you figure out what the minimum thickness is that you can go with this direct bolt-on design, and still have clearance with the OEM studs behind the rim? Is it 15mm?
I know you ordered the 20mm spacers, but did you figure out what the minimum thickness is that you can go with this direct bolt-on design, and still have clearance with the OEM studs behind the rim? Is it 15mm?
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Dragion, should be happy w/ the bolt-ons, simple install and removal. Just be sure to re-check torque after 500 miles or so.
I had 15mm in front, 17mm in rear. Like I said the front tires were rubbing too often so they were sold the next day
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Now you guys have me researching spacers for my OEM duckfeet. (sigh) Honestly, I never gave it too much consideration, because I mostly assumed it was all about looks. And a minor effort at that, mostly applicable to dropped cars so the tires don't look so tucked.
But now I'm reading about handling benefits of a slightly modified stance, and I'm intrigued. Particularly for something that's so effortless to mod with this hub-centric design.
But now I'm reading about handling benefits of a slightly modified stance, and I'm intrigued. Particularly for something that's so effortless to mod with this hub-centric design.
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I believe the thinnest bolt on spacers are indeed 15mm.
Dragion, should be happy w/ the bolt-ons, simple install and removal. Just be sure to re-check torque after 500 miles or so.
I had 15mm in front, 17mm in rear. Like I said the front tires were rubbing too often so they were sold the next day
Dragion, should be happy w/ the bolt-ons, simple install and removal. Just be sure to re-check torque after 500 miles or so.
I had 15mm in front, 17mm in rear. Like I said the front tires were rubbing too often so they were sold the next day
15mm is the minimum size spacer that will fit the stock G's 18" Sport wheel aka "duckfeet"...not quite sure about OEM 17" wheels, but should.
Project Kics do make a 10mm bolt on spacer, but it's not hub centric and might cause the OEM bolts to contact/touch the inner wheel.
Judging from your previous set up, mine with the Swifts should be fine...thanks!
Now you guys have me researching spacers for my OEM duckfeet. (sigh) Honestly, I never gave it too much consideration, because I mostly assumed it was all about looks. And a minor effort at that, mostly applicable to dropped cars so the tires don't look so tucked.
But now I'm reading about handling benefits of a slightly modified stance, and I'm intrigued. Particularly for something that's so effortless to mod with this hub-centric design.
But now I'm reading about handling benefits of a slightly modified stance, and I'm intrigued. Particularly for something that's so effortless to mod with this hub-centric design.
Answer: better performance/handling on dry road surfaces.
I'm not a Scientist or know anything technically regarding this matter, but I think by widening the stance, it should increase the stability of the vehicle.
Plus, even in snowy climates the width of the tire is still the same...just further apart, so it has no worse effect in the snow.
Just my $.02
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Are you expecting to observe a change in any particular handling characteristic?
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B2Design 20mm Hub Centric Spacers installed :)
Went to Royal Wheels & Tire and had John install the 20mm DRM spacers by B2Design.
Here are a few pics I took during the install...excuse the quality, but they were taken with my HTC One S:
Front Passenger's Side installed
Rear Passenger's Side
Torque to 90lbs
Tightening the wheel bolts
Being lowered from lift
Front Driver's Side
Rear Driver's Side
Rear Passenger's Side
Front Passenger's Side
Side View
Front
Rear
Rear top view
Front top view
I will take some better pictures later
The 20mm spacers fit perfectly and pushes the wheels out flushed with the wheel well.
Driving with the spacers has increased the feel of stability without any decrease in comfort...actually feels less imperfections than before without the spacers.
There was no vibration/shudder all the way up to 80 mph...suspension felt very flat and smooth.
Steering was even more tighter now with the spacers.
Handling has improved.
Very happy with my decision.
Feedback will be greatly appreciated.
Here are a few pics I took during the install...excuse the quality, but they were taken with my HTC One S:
Front Passenger's Side installed
Rear Passenger's Side
Torque to 90lbs
Tightening the wheel bolts
Being lowered from lift
Front Driver's Side
Rear Driver's Side
Rear Passenger's Side
Front Passenger's Side
Side View
Front
Rear
Rear top view
Front top view
I will take some better pictures later
The 20mm spacers fit perfectly and pushes the wheels out flushed with the wheel well.
Driving with the spacers has increased the feel of stability without any decrease in comfort...actually feels less imperfections than before without the spacers.
There was no vibration/shudder all the way up to 80 mph...suspension felt very flat and smooth.
Steering was even more tighter now with the spacers.
Handling has improved.
Very happy with my decision.
Feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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