jeffjcause

First off, I just want to say...I am perfectly fine with people running replica wheels...Varrstoen, Rota, etc...I have no angst towards people buying them or anything. I just wanted to show some pics of what can happen when a curb meets said wheels. Granted, the force of the impact with the curb was quite strong, a true forged monoblock wheel would not even come close to this kind of damage. Luckily the driver is alive without a scratch, but the wreck was pretty brutal. And for reference, ROTA GRID.

This is one of the wheels that actually made it through the wreck:



This one not so much:

G37HKS

Thanks for sharing!

Forged Wheels ftmfw

Rad_Slinger

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Wow. The damage is amazing.

So, you think the real thing woulda faired better in the same situation?

Black Betty

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And even after seeing that for yourself you still don't have a problem with poorly constructed POS knockoff wheels? I guess somebody has to die before some people will admit that being cheap isn't worth anyone's life.

kchu221

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holy ****... you get what you pay for, especially wheels! this is one of the reason why i stand my ground on buy only authentic wheels...

sharkey

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Is that recent, or is it from an Evolution?

SwissCheeseHead

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In a high speed wreck, a wheel failure is the least of my worries. Not saying I support the rep. wheel market or anything. Just saying.

Rad_Slinger

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See. This is what I'm thinking.

Has anyone asked why or how the driver hit that curb? I guess that was kinda my question. That damage isn't from normal driving going over a bump. I find it hard to believe that that kind of damage would escape any wheel under the same circumstances.

And cheese is right, I don't support knockoffs either, but if that kind of damage is happening from that kind of force, I think the driver has bigger problems to worry about.

Megacab

Yeah...
I'm guessing that wasn't quite a 2-5 mph "oops" stop hit against the curb, or the dreaded rash from your girlfriend/wife parallel parking the car (Who would let them do it anyway??).

Support cheap China knockoff crap?
No.
But let's be realistic, I doubt any wheel, knockoff or real, would have been salvageable after an impact like that...

sharkey

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I'm thinking that this is from a evo 8 crash, and it was high speed ...

That's not going to happen if you jump a curb or curb wheels

jeffjcause

In my personal opinion, yes. I've seen the actual strength of authentic wheels. About 5 years ago, a good friend of mine got caught up under an 18 wheeler in his ek civic hatch. No, he wasn't fast and furiousing, he just got caught in a current going around an exit ramp. The 18 wheeler drug him for over half a mile before realizing it was happening. He had volk ce28n. Any other wheel would have snapped and ultimately caused him to start rolling. In this video, you can actually see how the volks held up while being DRAGGED ACROSS CEMENT. Pretty intense stuff!

jason brewer wreck 1 Video by Logan D. Brewer! (R.I.P Micah Bonner) - Myspace Video

Well in my defense I was never asked nor specified for what kind of application? I believe any car with the intentions of spirited driving should absolutely stay away from replicas. Youre right. It isn't worth anyone's life. But the whole "low n slow" movement is the complete opposite. I'm sure most of them approach curbs at...2 mph? I somehow doubt that kind of impact would affect most replicas....most being the key word

I'd say within the past few months. It was a Lexus GS here in Birmingham.

I agree. It was not from normal driving going over a bump. But I GUARANTEE you a real wheel would have stood a FAR better chance than this. But in the end, I'm not here to argue over the validity of real wheels and replicas. I'm just merely showing the outcome of a driver hitting against a curb and destroying a replica wheel .

I thought the same thing before i saw a Volk be dragged 1/2 a mile under an 18 wheeler

This is not from the evo 8 crash, and it did happen from him jumping the curb

Dark Sarcasm

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huh? not sure how the video clip is helping your point. its not a hang glider its a honda civic.

jeffjcause

He hit a dip in an exit ramp...which caused his rear end to pick up in the air a little...there was an 18 wheeler next to him...once the draft from the 18 wheeler hit the car while the rear was somewhat airborne, it caused him to lose control of the car and slide up underneath it. And how is the video clip not helping my point? The video shows the strength of an actual forged wheel after being dragged by an 18 wheeler...that in itself is my one only point to it.

WPPJR30

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I am going to reply acknowledging the fact that my post may be deleted without cause...

The damage to this fake wheel would not have happened to the wheel from which it was copied. The Volk Racing TE37 is a forged wheel. Forged wheels are stronger. Plain and simple. The forging process changes the structural integrity of the aluminum making it stronger than a cast wheel. There is a higher specific strength and toughness to a forged wheel. Basically, it can absorb more energy. This means the wheel, while being lighter, will also be able to handle significantly more abuse. It is less likely to crack. If one is involved in a high-speed crash, yes, there would likely to damage to any wheel. However, the damaged to a forged wheel would likely look something like this:

And not like these:


They would bend; not break, shatter, or virtually disintegrate.

There is no enforcement like the DOT for the aftermarket in the United States. In countries like Japan and Germany, each wheel has to be registered with the government before it is allowed to be put on the market, whether it is cast or forged. That is the reason there are so many **** wheel brands surfacing all over America. In many cases, these wheels are, quite simply, extremely unsafe. Well-reputed companies like Rays Engineering, Enkei, Advan, SSR, BBS, etc... (all companies that happen to get their designs stolen all the time) ensure that their wheels pass quality and safety standards to provide a driver in a catastrophic crash the best chance at survival.

I don't know about you, but, in a bad accident, I would much rather have my wheels bend than break into pieces...

jeffjcause

If anybody deletes it, I will be the first one in the group to start the mutiny