Are Michelin PSS much better than Dunlop SP Sport Maxx A/S?

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Old 06-29-2012, 04:53 PM
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Are Michelin PSS much better than Dunlop SP Sport Maxx A/S?

Are the Michelin Pilot Super Sports worth a $750 upgrade over the Dunlop SP Sport Maxx all-seasons? I have a new XS and I use dedicated winter tires (live in MN). This car came with the Dunlops and they're supposed to be considered high performance all-seasons. I'm trying to make the car more responsive without shelling out too much because I'm leasing it. I'm not a big fan of the standard suspension on the XS version, but don't want to get too complicated by changing out springs/coils, etc. I installed the Hotchkis sway bars and noticed a good difference so it was a worthy upgrade for $425. The only other thing I would do is change out to summer tires, but are they worth $750 installed? It's still a chunk of change but I'm tempted. Hmmm....
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Can't really compare max performance summer tires to high performance all-seasons... that's not really a fair comparison.

That said, the Mich PSS's are the best summer tires for our cars, although not the cheapest (incidentally, not the most expensive either so IMO they are a great value!)

Depends on how you intend to use the car. If you want something to last through all four seasons, the PSS won't work. If you have a second set of wheels and tires for the winter, then IMO go for it if you can afford to.
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Good question. I have owned the Michelins and they were great tires just a little pricey IMO. I just bought a set of Sport Maxx but have not put them on. Side note is that I live in FL so there is no such thing as winter so they are "summer tires" all year round.
Old 06-30-2012, 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by *GP*
Are the Michelin Pilot Super Sports worth a $750 upgrade over the Dunlop SP Sport Maxx all-seasons? I have a new XS and I use dedicated winter tires (live in MN). This car came with the Dunlops and they're supposed to be considered high performance all-seasons. I'm trying to make the car more responsive without shelling out too much because I'm leasing it. I'm not a big fan of the standard suspension on the XS version, but don't want to get too complicated by changing out springs/coils, etc. I installed the Hotchkis sway bars and noticed a good difference so it was a worthy upgrade for $425. The only other thing I would do is change out to summer tires, but are they worth $750 installed? It's still a chunk of change but I'm tempted. Hmmm....
Yes. Buy them. I have a GxS also and I sold the Dunlop A/S early on (Because they are horrendous) and bought the PSS. Great tire. Oddly enough in the 225 size I bought them in (same as the OEM 18") they were significantly lower priced than in other sizes. Not sure if they increased the price since last year.

I can still make the rear slide out pretty easily if i am going around a corner and i give it some gas but it is pretty progressive and easy to modulate.
Old 06-30-2012, 10:21 AM
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Check out the current edition of Car & Driver - they did a tire comparison. Michelin PSS was rated #1 in their tests. Best combined wet & dry performance.

If you wanted a track tire - there was a Yokohama that had better dry performance.

For me - I think my RE050s are loud - performance is OK. If I were to replace them today (and I've thought about it!) - I'd go with Michelin PSS.
Old 06-30-2012, 10:30 AM
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I believe I read that article... weren't the Hankook Ventus V12's the #2 tire at a significantly lower cost?

I have them on my car now. Good traction, but after about 12k miles they're done.
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They should have lasted longer than that. The are warranted for it in fact. Alignment issues?
Old 06-30-2012, 04:21 PM
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it is laughable that the Dunlop sport maxx are called all season tires. The wet traction is terrible IMO.
Old 06-30-2012, 05:12 PM
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I switched from the RE050's which lasted 23k miles to the Michelin PSS - great tire. Even in Florida - taking those exits at a significant speed with no issues. Have not heard them squeal at all. Recently went thru a heavy rainy season and they performed flawlessly. Got already 8k miles on them and they look still new.
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Thanks everyone for the push...that's what I needed. I had them installed today and noticed a big difference! Those, along with the Hotchkis sways, definitely improve the handling of the XS. I just wish it had a stiffer sport suspension, but I don't really want to entertain that mod since I'm leasing the car.
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^Notice a difference in road noise and steering feel?

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Old 07-01-2012, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ashmostro
They should have lasted longer than that. The are warranted for it in fact. Alignment issues?
My alignment is fine, and they wore evenly. I rotated them once. I am -1.8 camber on all 4 corners due to KW coilovers and a modest drop.

If they are warranted, I expect to get a prorated refund since I will return to the same tire shop. Not getting Hankook again, though. I'll probably go back to the Yokohama S. Drive. Had two sets on my last G and they were a good tire and lasted almost 30k.
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If very much like to know how that turns out- please keep us informed!
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Just an update on the Michelin PSS. Great tire. Period. I don't notice any increase in noise or major change in steering response when compared to the stock Dunlop Sport Maxx A/S. The car is definitely more stable in the corners. I would highly recommend them...but also take a look at the Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position. They are a little cheaper than the PSS and also rated extremely high (#2) on Tirerack.com for a Max Performance Summer tire. I also think they look a little better. Also, I got the OEM tire size...225/50 18. I sort of wish I would have bought a 245/45 18 tire, but they were a lot more expensive in the PSS.
Old 07-04-2012, 05:09 PM
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The S-04s will have the stiffest sidewalls of the two. Bridgestone's are known for that. They're also known to be heavier than other makes of similar sizes, by a few pounds.


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