Vibrating ~ Adverse Effects
04-12-2011, 06:17 PM
#3
but just wanted to know if it had any adverse effects on the wheels/suspension/rotors
04-12-2011, 07:04 PM
#7
Well when you buy them new, Rays (Volk) gives you hub rings with them. I just called Lou and he said getting the rings should help... 
and weiboy, kverd(graphiteg37s) and another guy said they are running hub rings with their volks and always were since they got them, so I figured its worth a shot
@ mike, i know the rims are held on by the lugs, but doesnt the bore size matter as well? like isnt our bore size 66.2mm or something and volk gt-30s are 73 something? i was reading something about that im not sure. just trying to find different solutions. dont really mind spending $20 just to see if it works, who knows... it might
because i did get my wheels balanced already they said they all clocked in perfectly at (0) and the guy even said they are all perfectly round so I see no other reason for the slight vibrations i get. i mean the tires ARE worn, but not significantly. they are only worn because of the fact that the faces of the wheels on switched and I had to switch them back properly. (hand torqued the fasteners and used loctite blue 242) next day got them balanced he said everything seemed fine except for the fact that I still NEED an alignment and the fact that I am not running hub rings. but I guess i could get new tires but I rather get the rings first and see where that goes although mike is making me reconsider ???
and weiboy, kverd(graphiteg37s) and another guy said they are running hub rings with their volks and always were since they got them, so I figured its worth a shot@ mike, i know the rims are held on by the lugs, but doesnt the bore size matter as well? like isnt our bore size 66.2mm or something and volk gt-30s are 73 something? i was reading something about that im not sure. just trying to find different solutions. dont really mind spending $20 just to see if it works, who knows... it might
because i did get my wheels balanced already they said they all clocked in perfectly at (0) and the guy even said they are all perfectly round so I see no other reason for the slight vibrations i get. i mean the tires ARE worn, but not significantly. they are only worn because of the fact that the faces of the wheels on switched and I had to switch them back properly. (hand torqued the fasteners and used loctite blue 242) next day got them balanced he said everything seemed fine except for the fact that I still NEED an alignment and the fact that I am not running hub rings. but I guess i could get new tires but I rather get the rings first and see where that goes although mike is making me reconsider ???
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04-12-2011, 07:08 PM
#8
Put it this way. The rings are very close to the hub diameter, but there is still some clearance, so that you can get it on. If the wheel is truly centered on the hub with the lugs holding it on, the ring is not actually touching the hub at all. Thus, what is its true function?
Have you put the rims on a balancing machine without tires mounted?
I really hope you find a solution to all your problems
Have you put the rims on a balancing machine without tires mounted?
I really hope you find a solution to all your problems
04-12-2011, 07:16 PM
#9
Put it this way. The rings are very close to the hub diameter, but there is still some clearance, so that you can get it on. If the wheel is truly centered on the hub with the lugs holding it on, the ring is not actually touching the hub at all. Thus, what is its true function?
Have you put the rims on a balancing machine without tires mounted?
I really hope you find a solution to all your problems
Have you put the rims on a balancing machine without tires mounted?
I really hope you find a solution to all your problems
04-17-2011, 09:11 PM
#13
Every set of aftermarket wheels I've ever had came with vehicle specific hub rings. I've driven cars with out them too, and there is ALWAYS a vibration at higher speeds like 50mph+. It feels similar to an unbalanced wheel. The rings have solved the problem every time. You need the wheel to be hub centric, not lug centric. All 4 wheels are centered on the hub in the same position with rings. Without rings you can try to center the wheels on the hub by eye and tighten with lugs, but its very difficult to get all 4 wheels centered evenly, and this can be felt when driving.
Put it this way, without rings you have about 7mm of play on an aftermarket wheel with a 73mm bore, this will be less because they can only move as much as the spacing in the lug holes allow, but it is still enough play to allow each wheel to be centered differently. With rings you have 0.2mm of play, so each wheel is centered on the hub and equal.
Put it this way, without rings you have about 7mm of play on an aftermarket wheel with a 73mm bore, this will be less because they can only move as much as the spacing in the lug holes allow, but it is still enough play to allow each wheel to be centered differently. With rings you have 0.2mm of play, so each wheel is centered on the hub and equal.
04-17-2011, 10:09 PM
#14
Every set of aftermarket wheels I've ever had came with vehicle specific hub rings. I've driven cars with out them too, and there is ALWAYS a vibration at higher speeds like 50mph+. It feels similar to an unbalanced wheel. The rings have solved the problem every time. You need the wheel to be hub centric, not lug centric. All 4 wheels are centered on the hub in the same position with rings. Without rings you can try to center the wheels on the hub by eye and tighten with lugs, but its very difficult to get all 4 wheels centered evenly, and this can be felt when driving.
Put it this way, without rings you have about 7mm of play on an aftermarket wheel with a 73mm bore, this will be less because they can only move as much as the spacing in the lug holes allow, but it is still enough play to allow each wheel to be centered differently. With rings you have 0.2mm of play, so each wheel is centered on the hub and equal.
Put it this way, without rings you have about 7mm of play on an aftermarket wheel with a 73mm bore, this will be less because they can only move as much as the spacing in the lug holes allow, but it is still enough play to allow each wheel to be centered differently. With rings you have 0.2mm of play, so each wheel is centered on the hub and equal.
thanks everyone
