19" OEM Wheels
07-16-2009, 08:41 AM
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Checking in and it would make sense to go 245 all around. Push the rears to the front and pick up another set of rear tires/wheels from someone who is upgrading to 20's. This way you can rotate and you dont have to downsize. Nothing wrong with 19X9 all around.
07-16-2009, 09:34 AM
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I disagree. You are not being smart because you have not taken the settings (algorithms) used by traction control, stability control, abs, etc which take the front-rear traction differences from the different front-rear tread widths into account. You are assuming you know more about these intricate relationships than the engineers who designed your car.
You are being cheap because you want to do this only to extend tire life to save money. Have you considered going to a "Plus Zero" tire sizing which will give you choices beyond Bridgestone and Nitto? Many of these choices have longer lives than the OEM Bridgestones. If your goal is to reduce the cost of tire purchases, you can do so by reducing their frequency (your only stated option) or by reducing the cost of the tires (something you have not considered) or by reducing BOTH the cost of the tires and the replacement frequency by purchasing less expensive and longer lasting tires (do I see a "winner" here).
You are being cheap because you want to do this only to extend tire life to save money. Have you considered going to a "Plus Zero" tire sizing which will give you choices beyond Bridgestone and Nitto? Many of these choices have longer lives than the OEM Bridgestones. If your goal is to reduce the cost of tire purchases, you can do so by reducing their frequency (your only stated option) or by reducing the cost of the tires (something you have not considered) or by reducing BOTH the cost of the tires and the replacement frequency by purchasing less expensive and longer lasting tires (do I see a "winner" here).
07-16-2009, 10:08 AM
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Yeah...i knew it is going to be difficult to find someone who is willing to trade, but i thought i should give it a try anyway. I did check on ebay, and majority of them sell the set. eBay does have individual wheel for sale, but they are way over priced. Anyway, thanks for everyone's thoughts into this. I appreciate it.
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07-16-2009, 10:14 AM
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Have you considered going to a "Plus Zero" tire sizing which will give you choices beyond Bridgestone and Nitto? Many of these choices have longer lives than the OEM Bridgestones. If your goal is to reduce the cost of tire purchases, you can do so by reducing their frequency (your only stated option) or by reducing the cost of the tires (something you have not considered) or by reducing BOTH the cost of the tires and the replacement frequency by purchasing less expensive and longer lasting tires (do I see a "winner" here).
07-16-2009, 10:32 AM
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07-16-2009, 10:56 AM
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I disagree. You are not being smart because you have not taken the settings (algorithms) used by traction control, stability control, abs, etc which take the front-rear traction differences from the different front-rear tread widths into account. You are assuming you know more about these intricate relationships than the engineers who designed your car.
You are being cheap because you want to do this only to extend tire life to save money. Have you considered going to a "Plus Zero" tire sizing which will give you choices beyond Bridgestone and Nitto? Many of these choices have longer lives than the OEM Bridgestones. If your goal is to reduce the cost of tire purchases, you can do so by reducing their frequency (your only stated option) or by reducing the cost of the tires (something you have not considered) or by reducing BOTH the cost of the tires and the replacement frequency by purchasing less expensive and longer lasting tires (do I see a "winner" here).
You are being cheap because you want to do this only to extend tire life to save money. Have you considered going to a "Plus Zero" tire sizing which will give you choices beyond Bridgestone and Nitto? Many of these choices have longer lives than the OEM Bridgestones. If your goal is to reduce the cost of tire purchases, you can do so by reducing their frequency (your only stated option) or by reducing the cost of the tires (something you have not considered) or by reducing BOTH the cost of the tires and the replacement frequency by purchasing less expensive and longer lasting tires (do I see a "winner" here).
The logic of having all 4 the same size is sound. There is no reason, suspension engineering included, that this car needs to have a staggered setup.
Tire Tack has 47 options to choose from in 245/40/19 starting at $120 per tire that would be suitable for our cars.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compar...9&startIndex=0
07-16-2009, 10:01 PM
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As for me (22,500 miles on OEM Bridgestones), I will be getting Hankook Ventus V12's. They are considered today's "hot" tire by most European reviewers, and Car And Driver just picked them a close #2 in a tire test (see the Car And Driver web site). I will buy them before their August 31 $50 rebate expires. Hope this helps.
07-16-2009, 10:07 PM
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Your logic seems contradictory to me. You are speaking about settings and algorithms and engineering of keeping the car with stock sizes in stock locations. Then you mention plus zero sizing as an option. There is no plus zero size that is exactly the same as the original size, so your point contradicted itself.
In other words, the differences are so close as to be indistinguishable.
07-17-2009, 04:56 PM
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The "standard" Plus Zero sizing for the 19" staggered wheels would be 245/40/19 tires on the front and 275/35/19 tires on the rear. There are a number of posts with people discussing their preferences for tires in these sizes. The general consensus is that the stock Bridgestones are pretty good tires. But, their life is short, they are expensive and they ride somewhat harshly. Check both TireRack and DiscountTireDirect for reviews and comments of tires in these sizes. Remember, you are looking for a tire available in both of these sizes so you will have the same tire front and rear.
As for me (22,500 miles on OEM Bridgestones), I will be getting Hankook Ventus V12's. They are considered today's "hot" tire by most European reviewers, and Car And Driver just picked them a close #2 in a tire test (see the Car And Driver web site). I will buy them before their August 31 $50 rebate expires. Hope this helps.
As for me (22,500 miles on OEM Bridgestones), I will be getting Hankook Ventus V12's. They are considered today's "hot" tire by most European reviewers, and Car And Driver just picked them a close #2 in a tire test (see the Car And Driver web site). I will buy them before their August 31 $50 rebate expires. Hope this helps.
07-17-2009, 05:31 PM
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Have you looked into other tires? Our OEM are summer tires and very soft that's why they don't last very long. Performance vs longevity trade-off.
I got my staggered set up for ~600 for all 4. So about 150 each. Half of the cost of our OEM. If you want to calculate it, that MAY be even a cheaper option than to rotate the tires. You'd get new tires with even longer lifespan. There are many choices out there, I went through the research and finally settled with my S-drives.
In any case, I'd much prefer getting different tires but keep the staggered set up for performance purpose, than to change the rear setup.
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I got my staggered set up for ~600 for all 4. So about 150 each. Half of the cost of our OEM. If you want to calculate it, that MAY be even a cheaper option than to rotate the tires. You'd get new tires with even longer lifespan. There are many choices out there, I went through the research and finally settled with my S-drives.
In any case, I'd much prefer getting different tires but keep the staggered set up for performance purpose, than to change the rear setup.
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