Photoshoot with new Chikara LS1 Wheels sponsored by 88 Rotors
12-15-2009, 02:12 PM
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So much hate 2c... That mitsubishi saved ur life without airbags. Need to see the positives in life IMO. After a near death situation I'd be more greatful, but that again is my opinion only.
12-15-2009, 02:20 PM
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May sound dumb but I escaped death many times and it didnt have to do with a car and I think thats what made me for whom I am today. The things I seen in my life I'll gladly get in the car and crash it again instead of going through what I did when I was young LOL.
12-15-2009, 02:32 PM
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Glad to hear 2C. You prolly have a higher purpose in life. I'll make sure to stay on your good side 
Back to topic. Isn't the ones that have the rims and daily drive them and fully experience them have the bigger opinions on if these rims suck or not. IMO they do the job. Same weight as my OEM 18s. Wider tires to suppliment my swaybars, looks and style and at an affordable price. When I take these out to the track well see if they hold up...until then these are street capable.
Back to topic. Isn't the ones that have the rims and daily drive them and fully experience them have the bigger opinions on if these rims suck or not. IMO they do the job. Same weight as my OEM 18s. Wider tires to suppliment my swaybars, looks and style and at an affordable price. When I take these out to the track well see if they hold up...until then these are street capable.
12-15-2009, 02:33 PM
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Here's a few more. All you can see is a bent wheel, but nothing shattered.
That damage is FAR worse than the Z's, but the wheels look to be fine. Can someone explain that?
12-15-2009, 02:35 PM
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Hey I admitt, they do look good, and yes they do the job. I guess my argument was the damage on it from the impact so too much and IMO I think another rim could've took the damage better. But then again I'm not a rim expert maker, I'm a retailer and enthusiast. Either way Geeoh it looks clean foshizzle, just be careful and I DOUBT ULL EVER FIND OUT IF ITS BAD OR NOT
Donpisto.....holy shaaat...that car looks FAWKED UP. LOL btw what wheels r those?
Donpisto.....holy shaaat...that car looks FAWKED UP. LOL btw what wheels r those?
12-15-2009, 02:50 PM
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Nicks supra didn't slam into a wall in the same condition as branden's Z so it doesnt prove anything cept posting random accidents that has no relavence to the arguement...
12-15-2009, 03:08 PM
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I guess, that's just avoiding the point I'm coming across. Doesn't really matter WHAT you crashed into, it's the velocity and force of the impact. Are you saying Branden's Z had a larger impact than Nick's Supra?
He hit a palm tree at a high speed. I can go into how solid a palm tree is but I think that's besides the point. A vehicle can be hit by another car at a high speed by another vehicle and that can have the same damage as a vehicle spinning out at a slower speed at a stable wall, tree, whatever. I understand that you're sponsored by Chikara, and maybe the expect you to say something, maybe not. I personally wouldn't say anything at all, but that's just me. But I'm sure they'd expect you to back them up so it doesn't affect their name. I'm not arguing against that they look pretty good for the price you pay, I'm arguing that their quality is not what other wheel companies have, like some of the expensive ones and even some of the less expensive ones.
So some of these pictures are completely relevant. You can't say that it has to happen the EXACT same way to be a reliable test. Like I said, the force and impact determines quite a bit on the damage, and so does the quality of a product.
He hit a palm tree at a high speed. I can go into how solid a palm tree is but I think that's besides the point. A vehicle can be hit by another car at a high speed by another vehicle and that can have the same damage as a vehicle spinning out at a slower speed at a stable wall, tree, whatever. I understand that you're sponsored by Chikara, and maybe the expect you to say something, maybe not. I personally wouldn't say anything at all, but that's just me. But I'm sure they'd expect you to back them up so it doesn't affect their name. I'm not arguing against that they look pretty good for the price you pay, I'm arguing that their quality is not what other wheel companies have, like some of the expensive ones and even some of the less expensive ones.
So some of these pictures are completely relevant. You can't say that it has to happen the EXACT same way to be a reliable test. Like I said, the force and impact determines quite a bit on the damage, and so does the quality of a product.
12-15-2009, 03:20 PM
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Hey I admitt, they do look good, and yes they do the job. I guess my argument was the damage on it from the impact so too much and IMO I think another rim could've took the damage better. But then again I'm not a rim expert maker, I'm a retailer and enthusiast. Either way Geeoh it looks clean foshizzle, just be careful and I DOUBT ULL EVER FIND OUT IF ITS BAD OR NOT
Donpisto.....holy shaaat...that car looks FAWKED UP. LOL btw what wheels r those?
Donpisto.....holy shaaat...that car looks FAWKED UP. LOL btw what wheels r those?
Before someone tries to flame Avus without knowing what or who they are, might wanna do a quick google on them to find out how quality those rims are. Just a quick tidbit, they've been used on F1 cars.
12-15-2009, 03:21 PM
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I guess, that's just avoiding the point I'm coming across. Doesn't really matter WHAT you crashed into, it's the velocity and force of the impact. Are you saying Branden's Z had a larger impact than Nick's Supra?
He hit a palm tree at a high speed. I can go into how solid a palm tree is but I think that's besides the point. A vehicle can be hit by another car at a high speed by another vehicle and that can have the same damage as a vehicle spinning out at a slower speed at a stable wall, tree, whatever. I understand that you're sponsored by Chikara, and maybe the expect you to say something, maybe not. I personally wouldn't say anything at all, but that's just me. But I'm sure they'd expect you to back them up so it doesn't affect their name. I'm not arguing against that they look pretty good for the price you pay, I'm arguing that their quality is not what other wheel companies have, like some of the expensive ones and even some of the less expensive ones.
So some of these pictures are completely relevant. You can't say that it has to happen the EXACT same way to be a reliable test. Like I said, the force and impact determines quite a bit on the damage, and so does the quality of a product.
He hit a palm tree at a high speed. I can go into how solid a palm tree is but I think that's besides the point. A vehicle can be hit by another car at a high speed by another vehicle and that can have the same damage as a vehicle spinning out at a slower speed at a stable wall, tree, whatever. I understand that you're sponsored by Chikara, and maybe the expect you to say something, maybe not. I personally wouldn't say anything at all, but that's just me. But I'm sure they'd expect you to back them up so it doesn't affect their name. I'm not arguing against that they look pretty good for the price you pay, I'm arguing that their quality is not what other wheel companies have, like some of the expensive ones and even some of the less expensive ones.
So some of these pictures are completely relevant. You can't say that it has to happen the EXACT same way to be a reliable test. Like I said, the force and impact determines quite a bit on the damage, and so does the quality of a product.
Do i have to roll my car to see if the chikara's stand up to the test? No. The fact of the matter is, the chikara can't take direct impact to a wall at whatever velocity speeds in a Z. Until we get some bends and damages from hitting pot holes, speed bumps, curbs, train tracks etc., your accident hypothesis shouldn't make a difference on if others should purchase the chikara wheels or not. I'm just against assumptions because i hate to see someone's decision sway'ed by heresay and assumptions vs research and real life experience...
12-15-2009, 03:29 PM
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regardless if these were chikara's, volks, iforged or whatever. I would defend them until certain circumstances and proof arises and changes my opinions. Until then, just because i defend chikaras doesn't mean i'm liable and it's in my contract. Why is me and Branden defending chikara wheels? Because we have them on our vehicles and we put our vehicles through daily test and in our opinion they hold up well. Ask another person who has chikara wheels and lets get a poll if they stand up to every day driving...
12-15-2009, 03:40 PM
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I understand your standpoint. As for the Z, I don't think the wheel hit the wall head on. The wheel is tucked within the fender, it needed spacers, so the first impact were the fenders. Besides that, I can understand if the wheel had no lip and was concave. But that Chikara is flat faced and has like a +30 something offset I'm guessing? The force it hit the wall at should have sustained minimal damage, just scratches IMO, to the outer part of the wheel. For the damage to directly impact the spokes/face of the wheel it would be pretty difficult. Originally impact would be the outer portion of the wheel, and that force would transfer to the rest of the wheel.
12-15-2009, 03:42 PM
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Nope, doesn't have to be expensive, just quality. It's as simple as wheel studs. Get extended ones and if they are cheap, they will break. You will that has happened with Ichiba's and some other brands (search my350z for it). I stick with H&R because of the engineering behind it. And they're not that much more expensive than Ichibas...just a few bucks.
12-15-2009, 03:46 PM
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regardless if these were chikara's, volks, iforged or whatever. I would defend them until certain circumstances and proof arises and changes my opinions. Until then, just because i defend chikaras doesn't mean i'm liable and it's in my contract. Why is me and Branden defending chikara wheels? Because we have them on our vehicles and we put our vehicles through daily test and in our opinion they hold up well. Ask another person who has chikara wheels and lets get a poll if they stand up to every day driving...
Why not find out how the wheels are made, what materials are used, etc? I'm sure Chikara has done some sort of testing on their wheels so lets see it. I'm sure some wheel experts are here on the forums and they can chime in with their knowledge in regards to the tests.