The NBA Playoffs Thread
05-04-2006, 06:42 PM
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All these people saying travel must hate Lebron and the Cavs. Its a known fact stars get alot of calls. Lebron isn't the only one that travels. I haven't seen the play so I can't really comment on that one shot. Unless you're an average player in the league, 9/10 times the refs won't want to let their decisions impact the game, especially at the end. Only if its like a huge foul and they rarely even call those at the end. They seem to usually pay more attention to the clock and the backboard light to see when time is out.
05-05-2006, 02:07 AM
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FVCK!!!! LAKERS WHY!!!!! tim thomas i hate you!! lakersa should have fouled. they had a foul to give!!
and why did kwame brown just blow past him like that? front him up!!! DAMN IT!!
and KWAME CATCH THE DAMN BALL!!!!!!!!!
and why did kwame brown just blow past him like that? front him up!!! DAMN IT!!
and KWAME CATCH THE DAMN BALL!!!!!!!!!
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05-05-2006, 02:09 AM
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man, its a good game thats all that matters to me. Lakers can win game 7, the series is not over espeically when youve got kobe. but whoever wins wins, its that simple. its great basketball thats all that matters. Lakers got some Sh*tty role players. If i start the team over the only players id keep is Kobe, Odom and Luke.
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The more I watch Diaw the more I like his game, as Ive been watching every game this series, Diaw is almost never a benefactor of Nash's assits. He plays strictly off the low and high post on ISO plays. He cant shoot worth sh*t. He cant buy a jump shot to save his life. Hes a dunking machine that uses his quickness and sick handles to abuse the Defender as he drives to the basket. He is a good player that will become deadly when he developes a jumper. Right now Odom is definetly still better because hes longer and can shoot. Diaw's assits are probably a bit inflated becuase he can pass to teamates that finish strong around the rim and deadly shooters that shoots 40%+ from beyond the arc. Odom has a bunch of not so great shooters, and Kwame brown inside... When Kwame goes up for a layup, theres a 50/50 chance that he will blow it. When someone throws Kwame a pass, theres a 50/50 chance that he wont be able to catch it. When Kwame gets isoed on the low block, theres a 50/50 chance that he will turn it over.
hes great at put backs and uncontested dunks though.
Barbosa, another player that likes ISO plays is also a freaking monster. hes quickness is frightening, he can drive off of his hesitation move on most defenders in the NBA. Hes good enough to start on a lot of teams.
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The more I watch Diaw the more I like his game, as Ive been watching every game this series, Diaw is almost never a benefactor of Nash's assits. He plays strictly off the low and high post on ISO plays. He cant shoot worth sh*t. He cant buy a jump shot to save his life. Hes a dunking machine that uses his quickness and sick handles to abuse the Defender as he drives to the basket. He is a good player that will become deadly when he developes a jumper. Right now Odom is definetly still better because hes longer and can shoot. Diaw's assits are probably a bit inflated becuase he can pass to teamates that finish strong around the rim and deadly shooters that shoots 40%+ from beyond the arc. Odom has a bunch of not so great shooters, and Kwame brown inside... When Kwame goes up for a layup, theres a 50/50 chance that he will blow it. When someone throws Kwame a pass, theres a 50/50 chance that he wont be able to catch it. When Kwame gets isoed on the low block, theres a 50/50 chance that he will turn it over.
hes great at put backs and uncontested dunks though. Barbosa, another player that likes ISO plays is also a freaking monster. hes quickness is frightening, he can drive off of his hesitation move on most defenders in the NBA. Hes good enough to start on a lot of teams.
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05-05-2006, 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by terryw
man, its a good game thats all that matters to me. Lakers can win game 7, the series is not over espeically when youve got kobe. but whoever wins wins, its that simple. its great basketball thats all that matters. Lakers got some Sh*tty role players. If i start the team over the only players id keep is Kobe, Odom and Luke.
05-05-2006, 02:33 AM
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How 'Bron's winner developed
By Chris Sheridan, ESPN Insider
CLEVELAND -- LeBron James got all the way to the basket for the winner for two reasons: Because he's LeBron James, and because his opponents were scared.
The Wizards were not scared of James, mind you. At least not any more scared than they should have been.
"I tried to get there," said Antawn Jamison, whose failure to cut off the baseline completely allowed James to tiptoe around him and get to the hoop for the layup with 0.9 seconds left that gave Cleveland a 121-120 victory over the Wizards for a 3-2 lead in their best-of-seven series. "I didn't expect him to catch and then go like he did, and if I would have moved any more closer [to the baseline], it would have been a foul."
Jamison wasn't the only Washington defender afraid of running afoul of an officiating crew that whistled 61 fouls, sent the Cavs to the line 43 times (Washington shot 29) and sent starters Caron Butler and Jared Jeffries to the bench with their sixth personal fouls.
"We set it up that we didn't want the ball go to the baseline, period," Jamison said. "We wanted it to go to the top of the key. It went to the baseline and kind of caught me off guard, and he took advantage of that. But the plan was for the ball to not even get into the corner, and unfortunately we had one of the biggest breakdowns at a crucial point in the game."
Cleveland coach Mike Brown had drawn up an inbound play to get the ball to James in the left corner, and he credited Larry Hughes with making a superb pass around Brendan Haywood to get the ball into the hands of the player everyone knew would be getting the last shot.
So why did the Wizards allow James to get the ball in exactly the spot he wanted?
"We definitely wanted it to go away from the short corner. That's the easiest place to hit a bucket when they're taking the ball out on the sideline," Haywood said. "But [Hughes] was able to lean to the side a little and avoid my arm and get it to LeBron.
"I wanted to avoid [encroaching on Hughes] out of bounds. The referee was really on me about not crossing that line, or he was going to call a tech," Haywood said.
A savvier player would have known that no official in his right mind was going to call a technical foul for overcrowding the inbounder with 3.6 seconds left in overtime of a critical postseason game. (OK, Joey Crawford might have the guts to make that call, but no one else would).
But that small seed of doubt in Haywood's mind, along with Jamison's caution-fueled decision to set up his defensive position a half-foot from where he should have, gave James both the ball and the opening he needed.
"I had enough time to visualize the best way to get to the hoop. I saw Antawn closing out hard, but I had enough room on that baseline. If I had a size 18 or 19 shoe, I wouldn't have made it. But I wear a 16, and I was able to tightrope and get it in," James said.
James finished with 45 points, going 17-for-18 from the line, to overcome 44 points from Gilbert Arenas, 32 from Jamison and 20 from Butler. The Cavs frittered away a seven-point lead in the final 1:18 of regulation ("We got soft," James said) to give the Wizards an extra chance they never should have had, but Washington responded in kind with the kind of mental softness -- fearing the referees -- that helped give James the two tiny slivers of daylight he needed.
By Chris Sheridan, ESPN Insider
CLEVELAND -- LeBron James got all the way to the basket for the winner for two reasons: Because he's LeBron James, and because his opponents were scared.
The Wizards were not scared of James, mind you. At least not any more scared than they should have been.
"I tried to get there," said Antawn Jamison, whose failure to cut off the baseline completely allowed James to tiptoe around him and get to the hoop for the layup with 0.9 seconds left that gave Cleveland a 121-120 victory over the Wizards for a 3-2 lead in their best-of-seven series. "I didn't expect him to catch and then go like he did, and if I would have moved any more closer [to the baseline], it would have been a foul."
Jamison wasn't the only Washington defender afraid of running afoul of an officiating crew that whistled 61 fouls, sent the Cavs to the line 43 times (Washington shot 29) and sent starters Caron Butler and Jared Jeffries to the bench with their sixth personal fouls.
"We set it up that we didn't want the ball go to the baseline, period," Jamison said. "We wanted it to go to the top of the key. It went to the baseline and kind of caught me off guard, and he took advantage of that. But the plan was for the ball to not even get into the corner, and unfortunately we had one of the biggest breakdowns at a crucial point in the game."
Cleveland coach Mike Brown had drawn up an inbound play to get the ball to James in the left corner, and he credited Larry Hughes with making a superb pass around Brendan Haywood to get the ball into the hands of the player everyone knew would be getting the last shot.
So why did the Wizards allow James to get the ball in exactly the spot he wanted?
"We definitely wanted it to go away from the short corner. That's the easiest place to hit a bucket when they're taking the ball out on the sideline," Haywood said. "But [Hughes] was able to lean to the side a little and avoid my arm and get it to LeBron.
"I wanted to avoid [encroaching on Hughes] out of bounds. The referee was really on me about not crossing that line, or he was going to call a tech," Haywood said.
A savvier player would have known that no official in his right mind was going to call a technical foul for overcrowding the inbounder with 3.6 seconds left in overtime of a critical postseason game. (OK, Joey Crawford might have the guts to make that call, but no one else would).
But that small seed of doubt in Haywood's mind, along with Jamison's caution-fueled decision to set up his defensive position a half-foot from where he should have, gave James both the ball and the opening he needed.
"I had enough time to visualize the best way to get to the hoop. I saw Antawn closing out hard, but I had enough room on that baseline. If I had a size 18 or 19 shoe, I wouldn't have made it. But I wear a 16, and I was able to tightrope and get it in," James said.
James finished with 45 points, going 17-for-18 from the line, to overcome 44 points from Gilbert Arenas, 32 from Jamison and 20 from Butler. The Cavs frittered away a seven-point lead in the final 1:18 of regulation ("We got soft," James said) to give the Wizards an extra chance they never should have had, but Washington responded in kind with the kind of mental softness -- fearing the referees -- that helped give James the two tiny slivers of daylight he needed.
05-05-2006, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by lilmauwow
I love how you guys blame the role players and not Kobe for the lakers loss Its ****in hilarious.
05-05-2006, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by terryw
how is that hilarious? kobe had 50-8-5 on 20/35 57% shooting. how can you blame it on Kobe?
He is the undisputed leader of this team, is there any reason why the Lakers didn't keep on feeding Lamar, Brown, and Walton in the post? The Lakers had control of the paint and foul situation in the first half. PHil must have been pissed how the team game has suddenly disappeared.