Originally Posted by terryw

first of all, I have already said that Kobe didnt play well in game 7. but why should be take all the blame? Why cant I defend him? hey his own coach phil jackson defended him, go talk to phil. if you only know how hard it is to change your mentality during games... the philosphy for any motion offense is to pass the ball to the open teamate. Kobe believed in Phil and did just that, because you know damn well Kobe is almost never open. It was not a bad strategy because its worked before, Kobe tried to make it work and it didnt. Should he shoulder some blame? yes, but so should Phil and the rest of the lakers who couldnt make their open shots. Did he give up? No, he played hard all game and played hard on D.


its just sooo easy to say that, being a better team mate, getting others involved, making them "better" blah blah blah. how bout hes teamates made those wide open jumpers. They continued to get wide open jumpers all series, and they didnt hit them when Kobe didnt take over. Phil has said it, Kobe taking over is ordered by Phil, a result of failure to excecute the triangle effectively. of course to you, hes making hes teamtes better, getting them involved when they make their shot. When they miss their wide open jumpers in the games they lost, its suddenly Kobes fualt, Kobe no longer made his teamates better.
great logic there.




you call this proof? you are just making claims, you are just saying the lakers didnt overachieve. thats proof? who are you to say the lakers didnt over achieve or underachieve? They won way more games than last year, and somehow its just all phil kobes got nothing to do with it huh? They didnt make the playoffs and made it this year as a 6th seed, they didnt over achieve? You are using a oppinionated claim to prove another claim, how does that work?



At least this makes more sense, if you really do think like that then what can I say. I just hope you stay consistent, whenever Suns loose a game its Nashs fualt, when Mavs loose a game its Dirk's fualt, Whenever the Cavs loose a game its Lebrons fualt. Whenever a team looses, you question their best player's ability to lead a team. you are just going to blame the star player or players instead of analyzing the game, well... i hope you stay consistent.

Originally Posted by lilmauwow

Kobe didn't make his teammates better when he won championships with Shaq when the lakers were 'winning'. Kobe often detracted from the team to do his own show in many games. There was a reason why a team first coach like Phil Jackson called Kobe uncoachable before he left (more proof for you). Kobe has been labeled since the begining of his career as a player that has not made his teammates better. He's a great volume scorer and a great defender. Thats about it.

Originally Posted by lilmauwow

Are you saying they would've won the same amount of games without Phil Jackson? It wasn't my projection, it was many NBA analysts projection. I'm just relaying the message. Phil said it himself he would be happy to make the playoffs, which they did as the 7th seed.

You yourself have provided no proof that Kobe makes his teammates better.

Originally Posted by terryw

Please just do what Pratik did.

Just admit that you hate Kobe, you hate his personality and hes attitude. you hate his swagger, you hate his game, you hate that hes a champion, you hate that hes loved for the same reasons.

and just leave it at that I mean hey Im a kobe fan but theres things that Kobe does that I dont like. But like him or hate him he is one of the best players in the league.

I too rather move on now, because that series is over.

Originally Posted by terryw

Suns just lost to the Clips, Elton brand and Kaman ate the little guys for breakfast. there hasnt been any close games this series outside of Mavs/Spurs

Originally Posted by terryw

man i could easily keep arguing your points, but im going to let it go because i said i was gonna stop talking about Kobe. its shady to go back and add all that after you agreed to stop though