Mase4g63

Are you on crack? What makes you think a drifting around the track is faster? Different class buddy. Drifting is judge by points which was won by sam h. with the Mopar Viper for 2006. While the world record holder for time attack belongs to the Cyber Evo with under a minute. Drifting is SHOW!!!!

terryw

I think the confusion here comes from the definition of drifting...
its important to note that drifting is both

a driving technique
and a sport


according to some dude on wikipedia

Modern drifting started out as a racing technique popular in the All Japan Touring Car Championship races over 30 years ago. Motorcycling legend turned driver, Kunimitsu Takahashi, was the foremost creator of drifting techniques in the 1970s. He was famous for hitting the apex (the point where the car is closest to the inside of a turn) at high speed and then drifting through the corner, preserving a high exit speed. This earned him several championships and a legion of fans who enjoyed the spectacle of burning tires.

The bias ply racing tires of the 1960s-1980s lent themselves to driving styles with a high slip angle. As professional racers in Japan drove this way, so did the street racers.

It has to be the right situation/tire and right type of corner where drifting is the fastest way around a corner or corners. Today's racing tires are not optimal for drifting. Another huge draw back that prevents it from used too much is that it degrades the tire immensely thus often times making it not worth while. I think its not done in F1 because of the immense grip of the F1 tires and the cars' relative light weight making it very difficult to execute.


as a sport drifting around a track is by no means the fastest way around a corner. in fact driving sideways on the straights is retarded in a time attack.
Even in Initial D, they only drift around corners....

Jeff92se

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So basicly Drifto has been useless since the 70s really has no legitimate place in racing for the last 30+ years. Thanks

kraqcommando

well if he got an ls2 wouldent it be much harder for after market upgrades?

pdjafari

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^^I dunno about aftermarket, but it would be pretty redneck if he put an LS2 in a JDM car

terryw

hes already said multiple times that hes not interested in doing that. but modding potential for NA LS2 is actually very high, intake, exhaust, pulley etc gets you a lot of power.

Jeff92se

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You kidding me?!?! Cams, headers, ecu reprograms, intake manifolds, TBs, peformance rockers, heads, etc etc etc.... And these mods actually make power

Jeff92se

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yeah soooo redneck. As redneck as a LS2 FD RX7 making 400 na hp while still retaining a 50/50 weight dist.

Yeah, give me that redneck mobile any day of the week.

pdjafari

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b00stedjustin

jeff's solution to any thing is always drop a chevy engine. What can we say, he's quite the vette fanboy.

imandresing22

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Exactly!.. Tsuchiya said himself that it was never a tactic to get the best track lap times. It's a form of art, that's why they're judged by angle, entry speed, longevity of holding it sideways, amt. of smoke, connecting of turns.. yada yada. Check out some of the original Option videos, or Best motoring. He says it almost at the beginning of every competition. Gripping is how you get the best times.. not drifting.

Jeff92se

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I thought you would chime in with a lame crack vs some facts against my data.

And you are yet again wrong. If FORD had an all aluminum SOHV v8 making 350-400hp na, then I'd be proposing THAT for a swap. Nissan and Lexus do make relatively smallish aluminum V8s but they don't have the ease of swap nor the aftermarket support.

And since both the LS1 and LS2 are NOT exclusive to the Corvette, then it's quite clear I'm not a "vette fanboy". Not that would be the worst thing to be a fan of. Since Nissan has NOTHING in it's arsenal to touch a Z06

But now I suppose you will start replying to this thread vs addressing the others that have clarified your fundamental misconceptions about "drifto".

b00stedjustin

come early next year the gt-r will be out, which will spank your little vette fanboy. One just because you know nothing about drifting "dorifuto" in japanese big guy, doesn't mean others are wrong. You have been clearly wrong throughout this entire thread chief.

p.s. SOHV? lol Didn't you mean SOHC (which is anchient technology). Sorry I don't follow fok f.o.r.d.s. (fix or repair daily)

b00stedjustin

No he doesn't. I bought most of them when they first came out. Drifting now adays is an art form. In the past it was harked as a racing technique. Of course this technique is only one of many in the racer's arsenal (yes drifting is super hard on everything on the car, which is why you can't use it too much). Gripping for the most part is how you get the best lap times, but a mix of both grip and drift can give minimize your times even further.

Jeff92se

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Name ONE form of racing other than Rally, that proves drifting is benefical! ONE!