Yet another Sedan vs. Coupe - @ TRACK -
11-04-2009, 09:26 PM
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The coupe is heavy because of the extra reinforcements that the doors need to meet crash guidelines. The suspension is different. i have a non-sport coupe and it rides firmer than my sport sedan, both are AWD.
The only car you buy for the track time is something exotic. Although these cars run well, I would not say they are exotic. Poeple buy 4-doors or 2-doors based on syling and preference not track time or wieght. If you bought this car for the track skils, then I think you bought the wrong car.
The only car you buy for the track time is something exotic. Although these cars run well, I would not say they are exotic. Poeple buy 4-doors or 2-doors based on syling and preference not track time or wieght. If you bought this car for the track skils, then I think you bought the wrong car.
although exotics are rare on the track, and the vast majority that do show up need a driver mod badly.
11-04-2009, 10:24 PM
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I'm nearly 100% sure the RWD Sedans (6MT or Journey w/sport) and RWD Coupes (6MT or Journey w/sport) come with the same suspension.
Either car in AWD form does not have the sport suspension, quicker steering ratio, or larger brakes.
My source is Infinitihelp.com. Also, if the RWD cars are nearly the same weight why would Infiniti design two different sport suspensions? That would lead to extra costs.
11-05-2009, 01:25 AM
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Because people like me don't like practical, hahaha!! Ohhh and the coupe looks about 10000+ times better than a sedan, but I don't want to ruffle any sedan driver's feathers, it's just my humble opinion!!
11-05-2009, 05:57 PM
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11-05-2009, 10:40 PM
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hahaha, n1
Then that's another reason I got my coupe, I need to somehow try to impress myself, and no sedan is going to accomplish that, hahaha!!
jk sedan friends, LOL!!
Then that's another reason I got my coupe, I need to somehow try to impress myself, and no sedan is going to accomplish that, hahaha!!
jk sedan friends, LOL!!
11-06-2009, 11:53 AM
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Probably going to be close on time.
The biggest by FAR factor on the track is weight. It affects performance in ALL THREE areas. Acceleration, Braking, Handling. The next biggest factor is tires.
For their to be a measurable difference (assuming equal drivers) I would suspect the Sedan would have to be 50 pounds lighter. How much lighter is it?
Here is an example (I used to race cars). A 1280 pound with driver sports racer with 145 HP on smaller slicks runs FASTER lap times than a 2880 pound car with 700 HP on much bigger slicks. I drove them both so I know. Of course the amount of difference will depend on how tight the track is. But you get the idea.
BTW, I just got a sedan. It is a 6MT and the suspension seems pretty stiff compared to the AWD Slushbox Sedan I test drove. If the coupe is a lot stiffer then I would think it would be mighty stiff indeed.
As far as running Gs on the track I am all for it. You do not have to have an "exotic" for fun at the track. I have driven my street cars on the track many times as it is the only place to drive your car at the limit, legally. You learn a lot and it is a lot of fun. Also, many "performance" cars will not hold up on the track when driven at the limit. 99% of the time the brakes will get too hot and you have to come in.
The best street car I have driven on the track was my old BMW 323 sedan. You could run it for 30 minutes and the lap times would all be within a couple of tenths. I'll try the G next spring.
The biggest by FAR factor on the track is weight. It affects performance in ALL THREE areas. Acceleration, Braking, Handling. The next biggest factor is tires.
For their to be a measurable difference (assuming equal drivers) I would suspect the Sedan would have to be 50 pounds lighter. How much lighter is it?
Here is an example (I used to race cars). A 1280 pound with driver sports racer with 145 HP on smaller slicks runs FASTER lap times than a 2880 pound car with 700 HP on much bigger slicks. I drove them both so I know. Of course the amount of difference will depend on how tight the track is. But you get the idea.
BTW, I just got a sedan. It is a 6MT and the suspension seems pretty stiff compared to the AWD Slushbox Sedan I test drove. If the coupe is a lot stiffer then I would think it would be mighty stiff indeed.
As far as running Gs on the track I am all for it. You do not have to have an "exotic" for fun at the track. I have driven my street cars on the track many times as it is the only place to drive your car at the limit, legally. You learn a lot and it is a lot of fun. Also, many "performance" cars will not hold up on the track when driven at the limit. 99% of the time the brakes will get too hot and you have to come in.
The best street car I have driven on the track was my old BMW 323 sedan. You could run it for 30 minutes and the lap times would all be within a couple of tenths. I'll try the G next spring.
