Originally Posted by Seer

well said, unfortunately nobody is lying in these posts, nor is the track equipment messed up. This track hosts national IHRA events.

One thing I have learned from breaking records (yea I also was one of the pioneer drag racers trying to get a stock 10 second slip from a C6 Z06, unfortunately I couldnt) there will always be people to question you, and call you a liar. To you I say thanks, thats a sincere form of flattery saying what I've accomplished is unbelievable

Also your figures are way off for the Z28, I am a previous owner of a 2002 Z28 M6, T-tops, 16" wheels, it tipped the scales at 3570'ish with a 1/4 tank of gas in it. The Z28 is far from a 3300lb car. (hence why i was at an f-body event).

As far as the 60' arguement goes, PRP is known for good prep, the end.

Originally Posted by DaveB

You must have had lead in that Z28. As a previous owner of a modified 94 Z28 4AT, low option, no t-top car, my Z tipped the scales at 3420lbs. My friends low option 99 Z28 4AT with the alum block LS1 vs the iron block LT1 used in my 94 Z28 weighed in at 3,320lbs. Both cars had around 1/4 tank of fuel and no driver. Another friend's loaded 02 Z28 6MT with t-tops with 18s and some structural enhancements weighed in at 3,405lbs. These numbers are consistent with those that you will find on any of the F-Body sites.

There's nothing shocking about a C6 Z06 going 10s. It's possible. Find a good track, some great great prep, great DA, and some slicks and it's a done deal. That's a no brainer. Any car capable of 125mph in the 1/4 mile is more than capable of a 10-second run assuming a 1.5-1.7 60 foot. Out of the box, it's an easy 11.4-second ride on runflats. What you were trying to accomplish is nothing groundbreaking. Squeezing another 4 tenths out of a traction limited car is nothing. Add tires. Done deal.

As for you G37 running 12.9s@108mph on DR pulling 1.6 60 foots, it's BS. Whether you're lying, whether you got the wrong slip, etc. I don't care how good of a driver you are, you're not squeezing that much MPH out of that car unless you've got some sort of power added you're not telling us about. No way in hell is that car seeing 106mph, much less 108mph. I don't care if you could shift faster than a sequential manual, it really holds no bearing on MPH. MPH is not something you can mess up assuming you shift at the correct rpm. ET is the hard part. Blow your launch and you'll run .5 seconds slower. Get a good launch and your set. Either way, your trap speed will hardly vary (maybe 1mph). Powershifting doesn't add power. Period. To say that powershifting increases trapspeed simply wrong. Do you not understand the physics of drag racing and acceleration potential? Increasing your shift speed holds no real baring on power placed to the ground because you're talking about mere hundreths of a second. The ET difference between powershifting and quickshifting is a mere .1 seconds, if that. MPH wise, no difference. I've powershifted my friends 5.0 LX notch at the strip numerous times as well as my old VQ Maxima. The ET difference aren't even worthwhile for the potential damage and there's no difference in MPH.

Trey Hutchinson on G35driver.com has a heavily modded NA 06 6MT sedan on DRs. He runs at Steele, AL and that's a quick track. He has been dragging his 06 for about 4 years now and has about 400 passes. He runs on DRs and is pulling 13.2@104mph with 1.8 short times. The car is powershifted as well. His car weighs 3,350lbs without him and it makes 265whp/230wtq. His times make total sense. Then there's his wife. She owns an 08 6MT G35, stock. The best she can gets is 14.2@99mph and the best he's done is 14.0@100mph with 2.1 60 foots. So my question is how can a car like the G37 coupe that weighs an additional 250lbs over the HR sedan and a whopping 450lbs more than Treys 05 G and has 10-15whp more than the G35HR sedan be running 13.4s@106mph and a 12.9@108mph on DRs? It doesn't make sense. Mag drivers aren't the best, but their times are corrected and the trap speeds are the indicators of potential ET with traction and skill. The G37c simply doesn't have remotely the right power to weight to be going 106-108mph in the 1/4 mile. It's just not possible.

Originally Posted by G35_TX

Dave, sorry but I don't agree with you on the part where the car can't do that high of a trap when the 07+ 350z with the HR engine and only 3.5L are pulling 13.1s-13.5s bone stock with 105-108 traps as well. You don't own the HR engine, this engine has a massive powerband and really wakes up once you are on it.

Originally Posted by DaveB

07+ 350Zs that are doing 13.1-13.3s@105-107mph are usually on DRs and they're running under -DA conditions and quick tracks. Most importantly, the 350Z has an 8" shorter wheelbase which allows it to plant the tires harder and the HR Z weighs over 450lbs less than the G37C. The mags have gotten 13.6s@104mph out of HR Z's so getting a 13.2-13.3@105-106mph out of the Z isn't surprising. The 370Z will prove to be a legit 12-second car in the right hands seeing that it's about 150lbs lighter and has more power. It will be a steal.

Originally Posted by DaveB

07+ 350Zs that are doing 13.1-13.3s@105-107mph are usually on DRs and they're running under -DA conditions and quick tracks. Most importantly, the 350Z has an 8" shorter wheelbase which allows it to plant the tires harder and the HR Z weighs over 450lbs less than the G37C. The mags have gotten 13.6s@104mph out of HR Z's so getting a 13.2-13.3@105-106mph out of the Z isn't surprising. The 370Z will prove to be a legit 12-second car in the right hands seeing that it's about 150lbs lighter and has more power. It will be a steal.

Russ- Do you honestly believe that a stock G37C on OEM tires (18s or 19s) is going to pull a low 1.8 60'. Think about it. You've been drag racing enough to know that a low 1.8 60 foot is typical for an AWD cars like an EVO or WRX, not a RWD unless you're talking about a powerful RWD car like a Z06 or Viper that has huge meats and the torque to propel it and plant the tires assuming prep is good. Even then, that's far from the norm for a Z06 or Viper.

Originally Posted by AthenG

In regards with the 350Z HR 107mph (havent seen any 108mph yet). 1st. it's lighter, 2nd it wasnt stock, 3rd it was done on DA below -1000FT 4th he upgraded his FD to 4.0!!!! 5th lighter 16" wheels.../

Here was his mod at that time.
Mods: AEM Dual Intakes, Fast Intentions Intimidator Exhaust + FI resonated Test Pipes, 4.083 final drive, BFGoodrich Drag Radials 275/55/16 - 26" diameter

If this is the case then if the OP get a -1000FT DA then he's going to trap 110mph then?



http://my350z.com/forum/drag/317094-...y-hit-12s.html
R/T: 0.279
60': 1.796
330: 5.381
1/8: 8.311
MPH: 84.54
1000: 10.837
1/4: 12.947
MPH: 107.11

Originally Posted by G35_TX

Usually on drag radials? Sorry but here is the list down below. They are stock down to the tire. Anyone who owns a 350z can tell you it doesn't plant the tires down good at all. The way the rear camber is on the car for factory setups is not good. My 350z doesn't get near as good traction on launches as did my 05 G35 Sedan. The 350Z weighs around 3200-3300lb.

But a 1.8 60ft is hard to believe anyways. That is fishy. No Z/G has ever touched that type of 60 ft even with Drags. 1.6 No way.

100% stock down to the tire

ALL TIMES HAVE BEEN VERIFIED


1. Pat Bateman ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.150@107.62mph 2.027 60ft
2. Veetec --------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.157@105.32mph 1.938 60ft
3. Peak350 -------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.239@105.67mph 1.923 60ft
4. Warmmilk ------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.412@104.04mph 2.006 60ft
5. Bkennedy ------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.476@102.90mph 2.070 60ft
6. 2007-Z --------------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.540@102.20mph 2.068 60ft
7. PFI350Z -------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.568@104.69mph 2.159 60ft
8. Veetec --------------------------04 Base 6spd 13.640@102.42mph 1.983 60ft
9. jdifolco ------------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.644@104.68mph 2.201 60ft
10. DomZ ---------------------------03 Tour Auto 13.667@101.57mph 1.996 60ft
11. pistols07Z ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.675@102.31mph 2.150 60ft
12. BriGuyMax ----------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.688@102.77mph 2.091 60ft
13. Specv_USMC ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.711@102.88mph 2.163 60ft
14. 350zshopper --------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.733@103.22mph 2.198 60ft
15. 1.8T ---------------------------03 Base 6spd 13.736@102.99mph 2.135 60ft
16. VitViper -----------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.763@100.96mph 2.150 60ft
17. Alberto ------------------------03 Trac 6spd 13.779@101.40mph 2.052 60ft
18. Screamin350Z04 -----------------04 Tour 6spd 13.794@102.72mph 2.089 60ft
19. gsingh350Z ---------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.799@102.39mph 2.247 60ft
20. AJcool2 ------------------------04 Tour Auto 13.852@100.25mph 2.127 60ft

Originally Posted by Seer

sounds like you guys need to get out to the track more often instead of bench racing, it is what it is, the end.

Originally Posted by DaveB

That's a weak argument. The ones doubting you are ones that have been drag racing for years and most us have 100s of passes under our belts along with all the other "experience" that comes with drag racing. By that I mean understanding the relationship between 60' and ET, what's possible with street rubber, calculating ideal shift points, understanding how to launch a car effectively, etc.

I guess we'll see how quick your car is when you make some passes in front of some witnesses.