Dyno results- loss of power with M370
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Ken (07-08-2013)
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This mod doesn't seem worth it to me. I see already that without a tune its crap, but what I want to see is a tune before the manifold and after the manifold with nothing else swapped or changed just the manifold. To actually see if this is fubar or not.
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Side note: I noticed that the top plate (Moderdyne cover) was not secured tightly and I removed it about a week ago. It was causing vibrations... One of the front screws was not seated all the way (too long) which is why the plate vibrated.
Anybody think that the knock sensor was picking up the vibrations and reducing power, as shown in my dyno results of the first post?
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I did a lot of research on this with mine and had a couple other guys confirm similar results on their own. After tuning, there was more midrange, with about a 2whp loss up top. There was more average power over the curve. Posted below are my results. I had some bad O2 sensors, but both manifolds were tuned and tested under the same conditions.
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M370 TUNED: Results
Results:
287WHP 242TQ
I was able to gain back most everything that was lost when the M370 was originally installed, plus a little extra HP and TQ in the mid-range. The car seems a bit more responsive and it's nice having the valet/kill start maps as well.
Not sure if it's worth trying to squeeze anything more out of this motor without going FI, at this point. Going to enjoy the mods and tune for awhile. Suggestions, thoughts or input is appreciated.
Thanks!
Comparison between un-tuned M370 and tuned M370
287WHP 242TQ
I was able to gain back most everything that was lost when the M370 was originally installed, plus a little extra HP and TQ in the mid-range. The car seems a bit more responsive and it's nice having the valet/kill start maps as well.
Not sure if it's worth trying to squeeze anything more out of this motor without going FI, at this point. Going to enjoy the mods and tune for awhile. Suggestions, thoughts or input is appreciated.
Thanks!
Comparison between un-tuned M370 and tuned M370
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Results:
287WHP 242TQ
I was able to gain back most everything that was lost when the M370 was originally installed, plus a little extra HP and TQ in the mid-range. The car seems a bit more responsive and it's nice having the valet/kill start maps as well.
Not sure if it's worth trying to squeeze anything more out of this motor without going FI, at this point. Going to enjoy the mods and tune for awhile. Suggestions, thoughts or input is appreciated.
Thanks!
287WHP 242TQ
I was able to gain back most everything that was lost when the M370 was originally installed, plus a little extra HP and TQ in the mid-range. The car seems a bit more responsive and it's nice having the valet/kill start maps as well.
Not sure if it's worth trying to squeeze anything more out of this motor without going FI, at this point. Going to enjoy the mods and tune for awhile. Suggestions, thoughts or input is appreciated.
Thanks!
is your car an automatic?
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I also thougt you would have seen more?? Intakes WILL help for sure, I made 298 WHP and 240 WTRQ also on an auto ( 7spd X Coupe) I know all dynos are different but mine was also on a mustang.
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That's weak, no offense pal. I also am running the M370, but saw some decent gains.
Curiously, what software did you tune with?
I just had an EcuTek tune yesterday done, and my G screams now. More solid evidence that EcuTek > UpRev.
Curiously, what software did you tune with?
I just had an EcuTek tune yesterday done, and my G screams now. More solid evidence that EcuTek > UpRev.
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Do some research and you'll see the dyno result difference. Also ask around. The biggest difference is being able to control camshaft timing, which Osiris is unable to crack. Another factor is the wizardry done by the tuner themselves, of course. But the feedback I received made me decide to go with EcuTek, and I am glad I did. I highly doubt I'd be seeing those numbers with Osiris. Again, refer to my sheet.
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Lol ok man. If you would have done research you would know EcuTek is still trying to get everything worked out. Still few updates not available yet. There's very few dyno graphs about EcuTek. More speculation like the post you made that is better. No one outside of visconti and dynoyronics have even messed with the ignition timing. You're right about finding the right tuner that can work magic with it. so far not many with EcuTek.
I'm not knocking EcuTek at all as it will be the route I go when it's fully complete. Your graph means nothing without a side by side comparison. There's nothing to compare it too.
I'm not knocking EcuTek at all as it will be the route I go when it's fully complete. Your graph means nothing without a side by side comparison. There's nothing to compare it too.
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