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Old 09-07-2009, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Q8y_drifter
Can you elaborate on the 70% throttle at WOT?
As you may know our car utilizes a Drive By Wire throttle. The throttle plate only opens a 70% when the gas pedal is floored not your usual 100%. I'm sure you've noticed the slight delay when you floored it.

According to the throttle tables, when you're pedal position is on 86% you're throttle plate is only opening at 52%. I'm not sure if there is a good reason why nissan did this.
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^ Overheating issues => Limp mode?

More fuel burnt = more heat released
Old 09-07-2009, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by G37Sam
^ Overheating issues => Limp mode?

More fuel burnt = more heat released
Well, I didn't change the WOT I left it at 70% but I did increase the throttle response to 2% across the rpm range. I guess it's similar to having a throttle controller.
Old 09-07-2009, 06:01 PM
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I would love to try and open it up to at least 90% especially with upgraded intakes those should make quite a decent difference.
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Originally Posted by G37Sam
I would love to try and open it up to at least 90% especially with upgraded intakes those should make quite a decent difference.
Same here but I wouldn't go that far yet. I'm debating about bumping it up to 75%. I need to talk to a tuner that have an idea on how our VQ and VVEL works. I want to know if it's ok to put more air in since I know I'm running a bit rich.

My car needs to be serviced soon. Maybe I can try it out on the loaner car and see how it goes, hmmm...
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Originally Posted by tristan1334
As you may know our car utilizes a Drive By Wire throttle. The throttle plate only opens a 70% when the gas pedal is floored not your usual 100%. I'm sure you've noticed the slight delay when you floored it.

According to the throttle tables, when you're pedal position is on 86% you're throttle plate is only opening at 52%. I'm not sure if there is a good reason why nissan did this.
Is this throttle limiter adjustable via the Cobb AP? Do all cars have such a limiter? Also, is this limit only present at certain speeds or gears? (such as flooring it at 70mph vs. a stand still)
Old 09-07-2009, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Q8y_drifter
Is this throttle limiter adjustable via the Cobb AP? Do all cars have such a limiter? Also, is this limit only present at certain speeds or gears? (such as flooring it at 70mph vs. a stand still)
yes its adjustable with the cobb ap, yes all modern cars have this limiter, pretty much anything that is drive by wire has these limitations, some way worse than others, all for safety and emissions reasons. the G is programmed to only allow 25% throttle until after 3k rpms, so that if your slowly rolling you dont spin out of control. all the limitations on the car are to make it very driver friendly so your grandma doesnt spin out into a tree. this causes a very unresponsive car when we are trying to push the ***** out of it.

the throttle tables are pretty ****ty to begin with, at %56 percent foot throttle the butterfly are only open like 20% ..its pretty bad. BUT the full throttle limit is %87 and thats because the difference between 80-100% throttle is 1% power difference, but keeping the throttle slightly closed causes better atomization and emissions.
Old 09-07-2009, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Seer
actually if you want to get even more technical... an NA internal combustion motor pretty much works the same throughout the entire spectrum.

You want it slightly richer at peak torque, then lean at peak hp.

EX: 12.7:1 to peak torque, and 13.0:1 at peak hp.

I've built a few 800hp+ motors before, na and FI. FI obviously you want to go way richer.
yes! glad someone else here knows their sh*t!
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thanks for final clarification !!!!!
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Im lovin it
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Originally Posted by chamelieon
yes its adjustable with the cobb ap, yes all modern cars have this limiter, pretty much anything that is drive by wire has these limitations, some way worse than others, all for safety and emissions reasons. the G is programmed to only allow 25% throttle until after 3k rpms, so that if your slowly rolling you dont spin out of control. all the limitations on the car are to make it very driver friendly so your grandma doesnt spin out into a tree. this causes a very unresponsive car when we are trying to push the ***** out of it.

the throttle tables are pretty ****ty to begin with, at %56 percent foot throttle the butterfly are only open like 20% ..its pretty bad. BUT the full throttle limit is %87 and thats because the difference between 80-100% throttle is 1% power difference, but keeping the throttle slightly closed causes better atomization and emissions.
Really??? That's why the G feels so sluggish! I guess that's what makes the Z "feel" faster
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Originally Posted by chamelieon
yes its adjustable with the cobb ap, yes all modern cars have this limiter, pretty much anything that is drive by wire has these limitations, some way worse than others, all for safety and emissions reasons. the G is programmed to only allow 25% throttle until after 3k rpms, so that if your slowly rolling you dont spin out of control. all the limitations on the car are to make it very driver friendly so your grandma doesnt spin out into a tree. this causes a very unresponsive car when we are trying to push the ***** out of it.

the throttle tables are pretty ****ty to begin with, at %56 percent foot throttle the butterfly are only open like 20% ..its pretty bad. BUT the full throttle limit is %87 and thats because the difference between 80-100% throttle is 1% power difference, but keeping the throttle slightly closed causes better atomization and emissions.
Wow, this is all news to me.. I'd love to learn more about it
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Originally Posted by SOLISIMO
Here ya go

"I have a g37S 5peed automatic.

Fi cat back/fI H.F.C.'S/Stillen stage 3.

I had cobb installed with stage 2 map, but for some reason the car responded much better with the stock map.

1st pull 310WHP.
2nd pull 305WHP.
3RD PULL 308WHP.

AFTER REMOVING COBB STAGE 2 & REINSTALLING BACK TO STOCK MAP.

1ST PULL 318WHP
2ND PULL 315WHP.
3RD PULL 325WHP. "
Congrats. Really impressive numbers on a dyno dynamics with only a few mods. If you car was to weigh as low as a 370z it could run 12s in the 1/4.
Old 03-21-2010, 08:37 PM
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nice................
Old 06-11-2010, 02:44 PM
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I guess I wont be walking away from u nomore LOL. Very nice numbers man.


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