Review Berk Technology HFCs VS. Fast Intentions HFCs ***Side by Side Pictures & Thoughts ***
#61
That silicone was not last long so i had cel b/c of leakage.
I never thought it could be the problem from the hfc since it was installed by who made it.
So i took out my Injen intake and change the A/F sensor both side but it didnt go away.
And finally i found out it was from hfc.
And you know what tony sealed with silicone again, ha ha
Next week i will go to the dealer and ask them to get me the gasket for it
I will never go to FI again
I never thought it could be the problem from the hfc since it was installed by who made it.
So i took out my Injen intake and change the A/F sensor both side but it didnt go away.
And finally i found out it was from hfc.
And you know what tony sealed with silicone again, ha ha
Next week i will go to the dealer and ask them to get me the gasket for it
I will never go to FI again
You talk about your experience here with us like it was a nightmare. We have been as gracious with you as possible. You have never complained once to me. Every time I have come up with a solution you went along. But now you want to come air your frustrations out here, not cool man!
#62
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A few months ago when we first spoke, you told me that the CEL light was on for months before you even decided to contact me. So am I supposed to be a mind reader? If you do not make me aware of the problem how am I supposed to know that it is there? When you did finally decide to make me aware of the problem I set time aside to have you come in and I installed the non foulers. Now apparently the check engine light came back on some time down the road. You called me and again, I told you I would inspect the cats to see if they were defective. I told you if they were, I would replace them free of charge. At some point through all of this, you were the one that decided to Repeatedly go to the dealer without consulting us first.
Now, until last week you did not know that they were leaking because I told you that they were leaking. When I had discovered that someone else had removed them and improperly reinstalled them. I asked you face to face who had tampered with them and at first you were hesitant with a deer in the headlight look. When I repeatedly asked you, the truth came out. You said "the dealership removed them and reinstalled them" Then I told you that they were leaking and the reason that they were leaking was because the dealership scraped all of the silicone off and never applied new silicone. So now you have two flanges mated together with no silicone or gasket. Of course it would leak!
When you left, I told you that we were working on getting gaskets made and a permanent non fouler fix. I told you if the light came back on, call me immediately. You seemed very understanding, however I must of mis read you because you had to bring the issue here...
Thanks!
Now, until last week you did not know that they were leaking because I told you that they were leaking. When I had discovered that someone else had removed them and improperly reinstalled them. I asked you face to face who had tampered with them and at first you were hesitant with a deer in the headlight look. When I repeatedly asked you, the truth came out. You said "the dealership removed them and reinstalled them" Then I told you that they were leaking and the reason that they were leaking was because the dealership scraped all of the silicone off and never applied new silicone. So now you have two flanges mated together with no silicone or gasket. Of course it would leak!
When you left, I told you that we were working on getting gaskets made and a permanent non fouler fix. I told you if the light came back on, call me immediately. You seemed very understanding, however I must of mis read you because you had to bring the issue here...
Thanks!
Seems Like Tony did everything he could do... Good Job... sometimes people dont understand face to face intructions i guess...lol
#63
$500.00 and here is the link:
https://www.myg37.com/forums/supporting-vendors/186185-fast-intentions-h-f-c-fall-holiday-sale-2008-a.html
#65
O.K. this one goes out for everyone!!!
Yes, we use High Temp. Silicone for the VQHR This is not a permanent thing. We are currently working on getting gaskets made. There is nothing wrong with the silicone. I have a twin turbo mustang that has over $100,000.00 into it and makes almost 1,000 HP at the wheels. I DO NOT USE GASKETS BECAUSE I BLEW THEM OUT! I USE SILICONE AND IT DOES NOT LEAK!
A while back I tried buying gaskets from Berk Technology and Bryan wanted to rip me off by charging me $18.00 per gasket purchasing 100 at a time. NO THANKS!!!
Ultimately the gasket is a better way to go and we are working towards offering all of you that. But make no mistake, if the silicone is used properly in the install process, then you will not blow it out!
As for the non fouler fix, we will have a permanent fix very soon and if all goes well if should take less then 5 minutes to install and you will be able to run straight test pipes with no CEL.
Yes, we use High Temp. Silicone for the VQHR This is not a permanent thing. We are currently working on getting gaskets made. There is nothing wrong with the silicone. I have a twin turbo mustang that has over $100,000.00 into it and makes almost 1,000 HP at the wheels. I DO NOT USE GASKETS BECAUSE I BLEW THEM OUT! I USE SILICONE AND IT DOES NOT LEAK!
A while back I tried buying gaskets from Berk Technology and Bryan wanted to rip me off by charging me $18.00 per gasket purchasing 100 at a time. NO THANKS!!!
Ultimately the gasket is a better way to go and we are working towards offering all of you that. But make no mistake, if the silicone is used properly in the install process, then you will not blow it out!
As for the non fouler fix, we will have a permanent fix very soon and if all goes well if should take less then 5 minutes to install and you will be able to run straight test pipes with no CEL.
Last edited by FastIntentions; 12-01-2008 at 01:07 PM.
#66
I can say from spending a lot of time in FI that they build all their products to the higest of standards. To back up Tony, sometimes parts are not out or the majority of times a simple fix will fix the problem. Now if it work 8 or 9 out of 10 times its not to bad. Cars are not all the same, HP from motors are not all the same and what works 80-90% of the time might not work for you. FI does great work and their products are woth the few extra dollars. At least you know you are supporting a shop that produces high quality parts in the US, not in china. not sure if they berks is made here
#67
sumby
I dont know about you but i didnt know much about CEL issue before.
After tony installed my HFC i went to tony 3times and went to dealership like
7 or 8 times
meanwhile, i had to reinstalled my injen(dealer told me so) and changed both o2 sensor before the CAT and finally took out injen and sent it for the warranty cover.
And last week when tony took out my HFC there was leakage going on
What did i do for last 4months?
Just 2 gasket might saved my time and worry.
I dont know about you but i didnt know much about CEL issue before.
After tony installed my HFC i went to tony 3times and went to dealership like
7 or 8 times
meanwhile, i had to reinstalled my injen(dealer told me so) and changed both o2 sensor before the CAT and finally took out injen and sent it for the warranty cover.
And last week when tony took out my HFC there was leakage going on
What did i do for last 4months?
Just 2 gasket might saved my time and worry.
#68
Good to see the other side of the story and FI for being professional with all this negativity/bashing.
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#70
he didnt touch befor the cat and leakage was on there.
tony
On the phone you told me inspection will take only 30 minute after cool it down.
How long i was there?? 3hrs-- and what for?
you were testing other problem with my car
(he installed stock cat one side and tested some voltage things)
b/c of that my car ecu had all kind of code-according to the dealer
i know that you dont have a test vehicle but that was not way to do it.
#73
Dealer tech was installed gasket after the hfc so what
he didnt touch befor the cat and leakage was on there.
tony
On the phone you told me inspection will take only 30 minute after cool it down.
How long i was there?? 3hrs-- and what for?
you were testing other problem with my car
(he installed stock cat one side and tested some voltage things)
b/c of that my car ecu had all kind of code-according to the dealer
i know that you dont have a test vehicle but that was not way to do it.
he didnt touch befor the cat and leakage was on there.
tony
On the phone you told me inspection will take only 30 minute after cool it down.
How long i was there?? 3hrs-- and what for?
you were testing other problem with my car
(he installed stock cat one side and tested some voltage things)
b/c of that my car ecu had all kind of code-according to the dealer
i know that you dont have a test vehicle but that was not way to do it.
One last thing to keep in consideration, when you came back in this last time your cats had all of the silicone scraped off. You admitted that the dealership had taken them off. Now, this is what caused your cats to leak, nothing that I did. I could of and should of charged you for the labor, but I did not. So next time someone else touches our product don't expect us to fix the problem for free...
Tony