*Latest Update on Injen Intakes*
06-17-2008, 09:51 PM
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That sucks that it looses HP and TQ on the low end...
Looks to drop until 2700rpm. And that is a huge drop in TQ from what I see...
Not sure if this post has talked me out of getting the Tech reflash or the Injen intake. I guess I will wait for the independent dynos of before and after install. Dang it Max, hurry up. lol
Looks to drop until 2700rpm. And that is a huge drop in TQ from what I see...
Not sure if this post has talked me out of getting the Tech reflash or the Injen intake. I guess I will wait for the independent dynos of before and after install. Dang it Max, hurry up. lol
Not much we can do but continue this rediculous waiting game...
06-18-2008, 01:59 AM
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Ya Max, I don't doubt that the Injen makes power but my question is really how much and where? I mean if it looses low end HP/TQ then it is a no go for me even if it gives me 20HP at the top end.
06-18-2008, 09:03 AM
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That is usually the trade off for a CAI over a WAI... WAI make less power but dont loss front end power... CAI make more HP than a WAI but lose a smidge on the front end...
but bboy... on injens defense... If your running your car spiritedly... How often are you going to be below 2700 RPMs? never... so you wont see that loss....
but bboy... on injens defense... If your running your car spiritedly... How often are you going to be below 2700 RPMs? never... so you wont see that loss....
06-18-2008, 12:09 PM
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That is usually the trade off for a CAI over a WAI... WAI make less power but dont loss front end power... CAI make more HP than a WAI but lose a smidge on the front end...
but bboy... on injens defense... If your running your car spiritedly... How often are you going to be below 2700 RPMs? never... so you wont see that loss....
but bboy... on injens defense... If your running your car spiritedly... How often are you going to be below 2700 RPMs? never... so you wont see that loss....
06-29-2008, 02:03 AM
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06-29-2008, 05:25 PM
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"Only major difference between the two is ours has VVEL and is .2 liters bigger..."
Thats a big difference. VVEL plays a huge part in our engines, especially when it concerns adding an intake. It doesn't matter how much air we can cram down our engines throat, or where the air is taken from, if our intake valves and throttle won't allow the air into our engine.
"There are intakes out there for them but they haven't gained anything... This is the first intake on an HR motor that produced good gains on a dyno..."
Thats B.S. straight up. Eviledarkness has video and dyno's showing 9 HP gained from Fujita F5 intake on our car. I personally had a 8.3 HP gain from Fujitas and that was on a hot engine in AZ. Injen is not the ONLY intake out there that produces, thats false advertising and misrepresenting. I'm sooo sick of everyone thinking intakes are dead for our cars, and Injen is the savior. Just because Cobb put out an article claiming no HP gains for intakes people have been brain washed into believing it. Trust me when I say, intakes do work on our cars, some may work better then others, but they ALL do work!
"Only major difference between the two is ours has VVEL and is .2 liters bigger..."
Thats a big difference. VVEL plays a huge part in our engines, especially when it concerns adding an intake. It doesn't matter how much air we can cram down our engines throat, or where the air is taken from, if our intake valves and throttle won't allow the air into our engine.
"There are intakes out there for them but they haven't gained anything... This is the first intake on an HR motor that produced good gains on a dyno..."
Thats B.S. straight up. Eviledarkness has video and dyno's showing 9 HP gained from Fujita F5 intake on our car. I personally had a 8.3 HP gain from Fujitas and that was on a hot engine in AZ. Injen is not the ONLY intake out there that produces, thats false advertising and misrepresenting. I'm sooo sick of everyone thinking intakes are dead for our cars, and Injen is the savior. Just because Cobb put out an article claiming no HP gains for intakes people have been brain washed into believing it. Trust me when I say, intakes do work on our cars, some may work better then others, but they ALL do work!
06-29-2008, 06:00 PM
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"There are intakes out there for them but they haven't gained anything... This is the first intake on an HR motor that produced good gains on a dyno..."
Thats B.S. straight up. Eviledarkness has video and dyno's showing 9 HP gained from Fujita F5 intake on our car. I personally had a 8.3 HP gain from Fujitas and that was on a hot engine in AZ. Injen is not the ONLY intake out there that produces, thats false advertising and misrepresenting. I'm sooo sick of everyone thinking intakes are dead for our cars, and Injen is the savior. Just because Cobb put out an article claiming no HP gains for intakes people have been brain washed into believing it. Trust me when I say, intakes do work on our cars, some may work better then others, but they ALL do work!
Thats B.S. straight up. Eviledarkness has video and dyno's showing 9 HP gained from Fujita F5 intake on our car. I personally had a 8.3 HP gain from Fujitas and that was on a hot engine in AZ. Injen is not the ONLY intake out there that produces, thats false advertising and misrepresenting. I'm sooo sick of everyone thinking intakes are dead for our cars, and Injen is the savior. Just because Cobb put out an article claiming no HP gains for intakes people have been brain washed into believing it. Trust me when I say, intakes do work on our cars, some may work better then others, but they ALL do work!
06-29-2008, 09:20 PM
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For all we know COBB probably forgot to reset the ECU when they did their testing. I think that the short intakes give gains. These CAI may do a little better.
07-06-2008, 06:44 AM
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low rpm torque loss
The torque loss below 2700 RPM. will be negligible even from a stop. Unless you try to get your car moving without using the accelerator. Under hard acceleration 1000 to 2700 RPM represents a 1 or 2 of tenths of a second which will be more than made up for by the added torque when you are between 2700 and 7500. After the shift to second you'll come into the RPM somewhere between 2500 and 3000 RPM's or possibly higher .... end of story.
I just picked up my INJEN CAI TODAY FROM STILLEN
can't wait to get it installed. I'm on the fence about doing a baseline dyno and a post install. 
Anyone in So Cal. know a good place to get dynos that won't cost $100 ea. Are there any dyno days coming up soon????
I just picked up my INJEN CAI TODAY FROM STILLEN
can't wait to get it installed. I'm on the fence about doing a baseline dyno and a post install. Anyone in So Cal. know a good place to get dynos that won't cost $100 ea. Are there any dyno days coming up soon????