Instrument cluster disassembly
#19
I'm going out to do some burnouts!
#20
You know what sucks, I have TMPS on my new wheels, and Discount Tire was supposed to program them but they said they couldn't. Ahhh, I guess the light is pretty annoying. I'm going to have it checked out tomorrow.
#21
Black Betty,
Perhaps you’re one of the few who do not need TPMS. But I’m sure the vast majority of drivers do not check their tires daily, several times visually each day no less, and your diligence in doing this is commendable. But most people certainly don’t use a gauge every couple of days like you do. So it’s for this group that the law was passed. But I certainly agree that that TPMS can be improved, like on your wife’s Impala.
The story I told about my light going on is true. When I got out briefly to check the tires, I saw no signs of lower pressure on any tire. But had I just continued driving at freeway speeds on a 100 degree day with a tire dropping below 25psi, who knows what might have resulted?
Now not to get on a soap box, but I started driving in the fifties. Back then we didn’t have air bags, seat belts, padded dashes, collapsible steering columns, anti-lock/anti-skid brakes, dual brake lines, DRL, third brake lights and for sure, no TPMS. I survived it of course, but not because these devices were useless; no, it just means I was lucky. I believe the data on auto accident rates back then compared to today’s automobiles will bear me out. So in general, I don’t think disabling safety devices is the smartest thing to do.
Perhaps you’re one of the few who do not need TPMS. But I’m sure the vast majority of drivers do not check their tires daily, several times visually each day no less, and your diligence in doing this is commendable. But most people certainly don’t use a gauge every couple of days like you do. So it’s for this group that the law was passed. But I certainly agree that that TPMS can be improved, like on your wife’s Impala.
The story I told about my light going on is true. When I got out briefly to check the tires, I saw no signs of lower pressure on any tire. But had I just continued driving at freeway speeds on a 100 degree day with a tire dropping below 25psi, who knows what might have resulted?
Now not to get on a soap box, but I started driving in the fifties. Back then we didn’t have air bags, seat belts, padded dashes, collapsible steering columns, anti-lock/anti-skid brakes, dual brake lines, DRL, third brake lights and for sure, no TPMS. I survived it of course, but not because these devices were useless; no, it just means I was lucky. I believe the data on auto accident rates back then compared to today’s automobiles will bear me out. So in general, I don’t think disabling safety devices is the smartest thing to do.
#22
My wife just got a new company car, an 09 Impala. I think it's the base model. It has real time tire pressures for all 4 wheels indicated in the driver information display and it's a crappy GM product. You can monitor pressures increasing as you speed up and the tires get hotter.
A 43K luxury grand touring car only gets a light telling us that one tire is low??? Near worthless to me. I'll put some back in when they give me more useful information.
A 43K luxury grand touring car only gets a light telling us that one tire is low??? Near worthless to me. I'll put some back in when they give me more useful information.
I for one wish there was a simple TPMS on/off option as I feel it is worthless too.
#23
Checkov, as usual I certainly take your knowledge and vastly greater amount of experience into consideration. The "something is better than nothing" reasoning applies here. Maybe I'll reconsider and hold onto them and reinstall at my next tire change. I've already paid for the adapters anyway.
#24
UPDATE: I had to get a new pair of rear tires so I had them dismount the fronts too and put the3 TPMS back in with the iForged adapters. They worked perfectly without having to go to the dealership to reset them, even though they had bee off of the car for months. Or at least the light went out in the cluster.
I'm probably still going to take the cluster apart at some point anyway to tinker around. I would love to have my display look like this without the orange that looks like it belongs in the last generation G35 instrument panel:
If this guy can do it, I can too.
I'm probably still going to take the cluster apart at some point anyway to tinker around. I would love to have my display look like this without the orange that looks like it belongs in the last generation G35 instrument panel:
If this guy can do it, I can too.
#25
I have to disagree about its degree of usefulness Checkov. Particularly since I have low profile tires, I check them daily, several time a day visually. I check with a gauge at least every couple of days if not daily. When ours do indicate a low pressure situation, they don't tell you until it's at least 8 PSI low. I have 35/30 series tires. Trust me, I will FEEL and see it before it gets that low. That's almost flat on my tires. Then when it does indicate a low tire, it doesn't tell me which tire is low or how low. My wife just got a new company car, an 09 Impala. I think it's the base model. It has real time tire pressures for all 4 wheels indicated in the driver information display and it's a crappy GM product. You can monitor pressures increasing as you speed up and the tires get hotter.
A 43K luxury grand touring car only gets a light telling us that one tire is low??? Near worthless to me. I'll put some back in when they give me more useful information.
A 43K luxury grand touring car only gets a light telling us that one tire is low??? Near worthless to me. I'll put some back in when they give me more useful information.
geeeeez thank you! i think the exact thing!!! i rented a damn minivan to take a family trip and it told me the driver side rear tire was low... wtf my G just keeps blinking a stupid light on me.
#26
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-07-246R
#27
Well, unless you check your tire pressure daily like Black Betty, which I still think is not enough when considering a nail could cause dangerous underinflation in 30 minutes or less, you may want to read the following before you subject your whole family to any more risk:
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-07-246R
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-07-246R
#28
Black Betty,
I certainly agree that TPMS can be improved, e.g., showing exactly which tire is low and by how much. Perhaps an extra warning light when a tire gets “dangerously” low would also be helpful. But I guess that’s an economic issue that may be resolved in a few years.
And I’m sure you understand that the typical driver does not have the skill to feel, or have a “Butt TPMS” like you do. My wife wouldn’t know a real flat until the other drivers on the road starting beeping their horns at her. It’s for these people that the system was implemented as another safety feature. Remember, there were many lives lost in that Firestone/SUV rollover situation a few years back. If that’s the reason we now have TPMS, then I’m glad.
And yes, it does help me sleep better knowing that your sensors are back on. Why else would I be up at 6am on a Saturday morning?
I certainly agree that TPMS can be improved, e.g., showing exactly which tire is low and by how much. Perhaps an extra warning light when a tire gets “dangerously” low would also be helpful. But I guess that’s an economic issue that may be resolved in a few years.
And I’m sure you understand that the typical driver does not have the skill to feel, or have a “Butt TPMS” like you do. My wife wouldn’t know a real flat until the other drivers on the road starting beeping their horns at her. It’s for these people that the system was implemented as another safety feature. Remember, there were many lives lost in that Firestone/SUV rollover situation a few years back. If that’s the reason we now have TPMS, then I’m glad.
And yes, it does help me sleep better knowing that your sensors are back on. Why else would I be up at 6am on a Saturday morning?
Last edited by Chekov; 06-13-2009 at 11:48 AM.
#29
I didn't realize that the G's TPMS was so crappy... The 2003 Z that my G37 is replacing had real-time pressure for all 4 tires, so Nissan does have this technology. Why it wouldn't make it into the Infiniti baffles me
#30
Because they are cheap bastards and had to decide where to cut corners in order to increase profitability on this model. My sense of business would have had me cut out costs in a way that was much less glaringly obvious to the consumer, something they couldn't easily see or tell they were getting screwed out of. Anyone who's driven another car knows that most TPMS do give you real time pressure at all 4 corners and yet a $40K+ Luxury Grand Touring Coupe doesn't? Bad move Infiniti.
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