Infiniti G/Nissan Z getting stolen
#16
Sounds like the good old 7AT "burnout mod" switch that interrupts the brake signal to the ECU will have a comeback.
If I find the thread, I will link it.
Back to the problem, although the G and Z are not as easy to steal as a Kia due to having to have more than a screwdriver, I anticipate that the Autel system and pirated Consult will gain a similar coast to coast interest especially in the larger cities.
The first video on the list above in the first post (I saw it earlier today on Reddit) looks absolutely like the Gs and Zs were specifically targeted, and a quick search for takeover or sideshow on IG and YouTube Shorts will show quite a few Gs and Zs being thrashed in takeovers. - along with a fair share of the usual victims: Camaros and Chargers / Challengers- I guess our cars are the new fodder for the takeover game.
If I find the thread, I will link it.
Back to the problem, although the G and Z are not as easy to steal as a Kia due to having to have more than a screwdriver, I anticipate that the Autel system and pirated Consult will gain a similar coast to coast interest especially in the larger cities.
The first video on the list above in the first post (I saw it earlier today on Reddit) looks absolutely like the Gs and Zs were specifically targeted, and a quick search for takeover or sideshow on IG and YouTube Shorts will show quite a few Gs and Zs being thrashed in takeovers. - along with a fair share of the usual victims: Camaros and Chargers / Challengers- I guess our cars are the new fodder for the takeover game.
This one?
https://www.myg37.com/forums/d-i-y-i...urnouts-5.html
#17
Deterrent. If a thief sees one of these, he/she may assume that there is also a kill switch. Much easier to steal a car without either.
How hard is the starter to reach on these cars? Seems that we need a 50A BT powered relay connected to the hot side of the starter that can be opened and closed with Smartphone app. Similar to a Smartlock. Or maybe something like this Car Battery Disconnect with Remote: https://www.ebay.com/itm/36458519511...BoC6zwQAvD_BwE
Last edited by socketz67; 06-28-2024 at 08:38 PM.
#18
Granted I am "old school" but, to me, a simple kill switch should be more than enough. It can be wired anywhere and to whichever system(s) the owner chooses.- FL, STR, PTS, BRK/CL, etc. for examples. You can even have multiple systems on the switch. The most I would "alter" on the starting circuit is the wire for either the STARTER CONTROL or STARTER relay(s).
However, keep in mind that the more over-engineered/ complex the "deterrent" becomes the higher the propensity of the "deterrent" backfiring, or failing.
Trust me, I get it, folks want every measure possible to protect their cars. You can have the car more secure than Ft. Knox, but in the end if the thief wants it bad enough...
Everyone has their own methods to madness, don't let this potential project drive you mad in the process.
However, keep in mind that the more over-engineered/ complex the "deterrent" becomes the higher the propensity of the "deterrent" backfiring, or failing.
Trust me, I get it, folks want every measure possible to protect their cars. You can have the car more secure than Ft. Knox, but in the end if the thief wants it bad enough...
Everyone has their own methods to madness, don't let this potential project drive you mad in the process.
#19
The problem I have with a kill switch is that all of the recommended DIY positions to install one are blatantly obvious (i.e. off the main interior fuse panel); essentially, if you make it easy to get to for everyday use, it also becomes easy for a thief to find.
Wireless activation creates alot more options and BT in general has excellent range within the proximity of the car. The remote control for the battery was interesting, and likely uses 900MHz, but that kind of range isn't needed and carrying a second FOB is a PITA.
The battery switch is nice in that the Consult 3 "All Keys Lost" hack wouldn't work without power to the battery (doors would not unlock), so the thief would need to smash the glass and release the hood, then fumble around in the engine bay trying to find the battery disconnect. An ECU piggyback disconnect could also work well.
I don't think the people are sophisticated car thieves, just opportunistic influencer types, with very little fear of the authorities, that found a website that shows them step by step how to download ported firmware and flash it to easily obtainable HW using a USB connection.
I mean, you get the same prison time for stealing a 10+ year old G worth 8K as compared to a 100K 7 Series or Merc AMG, so the underlying motive and attraction to the G is just the simplicity, Nissan could also create an update to the FW which creates some form of challenge response when using this function, but they are a manufacture struggling to stay relevant, so this is not high on their priority list.
Wireless activation creates alot more options and BT in general has excellent range within the proximity of the car. The remote control for the battery was interesting, and likely uses 900MHz, but that kind of range isn't needed and carrying a second FOB is a PITA.
The battery switch is nice in that the Consult 3 "All Keys Lost" hack wouldn't work without power to the battery (doors would not unlock), so the thief would need to smash the glass and release the hood, then fumble around in the engine bay trying to find the battery disconnect. An ECU piggyback disconnect could also work well.
I don't think the people are sophisticated car thieves, just opportunistic influencer types, with very little fear of the authorities, that found a website that shows them step by step how to download ported firmware and flash it to easily obtainable HW using a USB connection.
I mean, you get the same prison time for stealing a 10+ year old G worth 8K as compared to a 100K 7 Series or Merc AMG, so the underlying motive and attraction to the G is just the simplicity, Nissan could also create an update to the FW which creates some form of challenge response when using this function, but they are a manufacture struggling to stay relevant, so this is not high on their priority list.
#20
When I got my kid a steering wheel club a few years ago, I got one that was bright red & chrome, so it will be immediately apparent. My thinking was that any way you can nudge the mind of a would-be thief to pass your car over, even a little subconscious bit, that would be a good thing. A hard-core car thief will be undeterred, and come prepared with cutting tools for either the club or the steering wheel itself. But one of these Kia-boys, not so much.
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#22
Remember how @BULL was selling a yaw bypass switch? I'm thinking of the switch he used, in the blank panel on the left. Wire it into the clutch/brake plunger switch so that you have to do three things when starting the car: 1. ignition button, 2. bypass button, 3. clutch/brake.
That's 3 out of 4 limbs. Could be fun.
That's 3 out of 4 limbs. Could be fun.
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#23
There are any number of simple circuits from.various systems that can be utilized, in any sequence, to immobilise the car.
It all boils down to how complicated the owner wants to make it while also making it "owner friendly." That, and the willingness to do the research and put forth the effort to "do it right."
For obvious reasons I will not go into detail about my setup, just to say that sometimes the answer is in plain sight.
Point is, if you're concerned that your car may be at risk - for whatever reason- do something rather than do nothing.
It all boils down to how complicated the owner wants to make it while also making it "owner friendly." That, and the willingness to do the research and put forth the effort to "do it right."
For obvious reasons I will not go into detail about my setup, just to say that sometimes the answer is in plain sight.
Point is, if you're concerned that your car may be at risk - for whatever reason- do something rather than do nothing.
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#26
It doesnt seem like this has hit my city just yet, but I've been looking into doing something to help protect my G since it sits in my driveway. I was tuned by Eugene at Enthusiast Auto Care last year and one of the features provided in that is an Anti-Theft Fuel cut mode that can be enabled via the app. With that enabled the car might crank for barely a second but will die shortly. Hoping with this enabled it will be as good as a physical kill switch for now but definitely going to invest a more visual solution as well.
#27
Bastards tried to steal my car AGAIN a couple of weeks ago. 3rd time, that I'm aware of, in 16 months. Pulled up in a G37 sedan and 2 stolen brand new Corvettes. Police chased them but they got away. Lucky for me they couldn't get past my steering wheel lock. They always pick my lock to get inside.
#28
Bastards tried to steal my car AGAIN a couple of weeks ago. 3rd time, that I'm aware of, in 16 months. Pulled up in a G37 sedan and 2 stolen brand new Corvettes. Police chased them but they got away. Lucky for me they couldn't get past my steering wheel lock. They always pick my lock to get inside.
Glad to hear the wheel lock is an effective deterrent, but if your car is getting targeted that much, it's likely only a matter of time until an opportunist with a Sawzall comes by.
Do you have electronic locks (killswitches or other means) to prvent the car from starting, even if your keys are stolen or cloned?
#29
Wow crazy to hear. Most posts are about the West coast (especially California, the Bay area seems like the epicenter). This is getting closer to home
Glad to hear the wheel lock is an effective deterrent, but if your car is getting targeted that much, it's likely only a matter of time until an opportunist with a Sawzall comes by.
Do you have electronic locks (killswitches or other means) to prvent the car from starting, even if your keys are stolen or cloned?
Glad to hear the wheel lock is an effective deterrent, but if your car is getting targeted that much, it's likely only a matter of time until an opportunist with a Sawzall comes by.
Do you have electronic locks (killswitches or other means) to prvent the car from starting, even if your keys are stolen or cloned?
#30
How about two clubs? One that extends from the steering wheel to the footwell; (a wheel to pedal lock). And one that crosses the circumference of the wheel itself, with a fork that staddles the steering wheel spoke.
Last edited by Rochester; 07-02-2024 at 09:29 AM.