What vehicle will be a worthy replacement for your sedan when it is time?
#1261
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The RS3 had a lot of collaboration with the legendary Hans Stuck for handling, has 8 piston front brakes,and a brand new 5 cylinder engine with 100 hp more than the STI and accelerates to 60 almost 2 seconds faster. It should have walked all over the STI. The TT RS was faster due to stickier tires and lighter weight.
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Where does the front plate go?
#1263
The other issues that Car & Driver mentioned were cheap tires and they actually faded the Carbon Ceramic rotors?
Oh come on! You wouldn't dare do that to that car!!
#1264
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If I'm still living in NY at the time, and an Alfa is in my future... it is what it is. NY requires front tags.
But seriously, even the 2.0T is a potent little engine. I need to go test drive one.
I was hanging with one on the interstate last weekend, and really liked the looks of it.
I wonder what the depreciation is going to be on the Quadrifoglio? What a freaking monster!
And I wonder if Alfa Romeo is going to succeed in the States this time around?
But seriously, even the 2.0T is a potent little engine. I need to go test drive one.
I was hanging with one on the interstate last weekend, and really liked the looks of it.
I wonder what the depreciation is going to be on the Quadrifoglio? What a freaking monster!
And I wonder if Alfa Romeo is going to succeed in the States this time around?
Last edited by Rochester; 09-25-2018 at 09:58 PM.
#1265
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Front plates are more of a courtesy these days
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#1268
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It's a law in 31 states. If you get pulled over for something else, this will get tacked on. And if a cop needs an excuse to pull you over, a missing front tag is as good as any.
I don't like it, but I also don't want to poke the bear.
OMG
Of course, that's the Giulia and not the Stelvio, but same components, same drive train. And that's the Quadrifoglio, not the 2.0T, but again... same car except for the drive train.
Perhaps owning an Italian import out-of-warranty isn't such a great idea, particularly for a company that's been selling cars in the States for only two years. (sigh)
I don't like it, but I also don't want to poke the bear.
Of course, that's the Giulia and not the Stelvio, but same components, same drive train. And that's the Quadrifoglio, not the 2.0T, but again... same car except for the drive train.
Perhaps owning an Italian import out-of-warranty isn't such a great idea, particularly for a company that's been selling cars in the States for only two years. (sigh)
Last edited by Rochester; 09-26-2018 at 09:47 AM.
#1269
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I think you place it here:
But really, these things are absolutely insane. I like 'em more than the Macan turbo, but that reliability is definitely a concern.
Well that sucks. I was obsessing about this car just last week and now I'm kind of disappointed. For my next daily driver, I just want something that's quicker than the G, AWD, DCT, and at least semi-reliable. The cars that fit these requirements have their own faults, which I guess is to be expected, but it'd be nice if I could find the perfect package.
But really, these things are absolutely insane. I like 'em more than the Macan turbo, but that reliability is definitely a concern.
I think it is strange too and it makes me glad I did not get an RS3 as that was at the top of my list for quite some time. Here's my theory. As soon as I saw that their optional performance package included wider tires at the front of the car than the rear, I knew that they cheaped out on trying to get the handling balance right. This was confirmed when I saw the lackluster weight distribution for the car. All the reviews I read of the RS3 made it sound like it handled well, but I knew actual track driving would reveal any faults in the handling. And wow did it have faults! The other thing that affects the RS3's traction is that Audi uses open diffs compared to the STI that has LSD on both ends. It looks ok in a straight line and paired with the DCT the RS3 is fast in a straight line, but good luck putting the power down coming out of a corner.
The other issues that Car & Driver mentioned were cheap tires and they actually faded the Carbon Ceramic rotors?
The other issues that Car & Driver mentioned were cheap tires and they actually faded the Carbon Ceramic rotors?
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LOL! And you even snagged a Seinfeld reference. Too funny.
I suspect the best plate mount would be offset on the tow-hook, instead of slapped against the bumper. Although that might conflict with that lower sensor. Either way, it still sucks... I hate offset license plates, and think they look stupid. A hide-away bracket would be nice, but I don't see how that would work either.
Clearly these cars aren't designed for the 31 states that require front tags.
The wheels on the Quadrifoglio... OMG, they're beautiful.
I suspect the best plate mount would be offset on the tow-hook, instead of slapped against the bumper. Although that might conflict with that lower sensor. Either way, it still sucks... I hate offset license plates, and think they look stupid. A hide-away bracket would be nice, but I don't see how that would work either.
Clearly these cars aren't designed for the 31 states that require front tags.
The wheels on the Quadrifoglio... OMG, they're beautiful.
#1271
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Well that sucks. I was obsessing about this car just last week and now I'm kind of disappointed. For my next daily driver, I just want something that's quicker than the G, AWD, DCT, and at least semi-reliable. The cars that fit these requirements have their own faults, which I guess is to be expected, but it'd be nice if I could find the perfect package.
I like C&Ds Lightening Lap, as it allows a relatively constant for comparison purposes. But I'm not one to track my car, so I wouldn't let the fact that the RS3 was 1 second slower than the STI RA be a deal killer. It's still a staggering 12 seconds faster than the G37S they tested back in 2008.
#1272
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The only recent personal point of reference I have to that is my friend's Tesla, and honest to God it makes me think there's such as thing as "too fast".
#1273
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LOL! And you even snagged a Seinfeld reference. Too funny.
I suspect the best plate mount would be offset on the tow-hook, instead of slapped against the bumper. Although that might conflict with that lower sensor. Either way, it still sucks... I hate offset license plates, and think they look stupid. A hide-away bracket would be nice, but I don't see how that would work either.
Clearly these cars aren't designed for the 31 states that require front tags.
The wheels on the Quadrifoglio... OMG, they're beautiful.
I suspect the best plate mount would be offset on the tow-hook, instead of slapped against the bumper. Although that might conflict with that lower sensor. Either way, it still sucks... I hate offset license plates, and think they look stupid. A hide-away bracket would be nice, but I don't see how that would work either.
Clearly these cars aren't designed for the 31 states that require front tags.
The wheels on the Quadrifoglio... OMG, they're beautiful.
I think Alfa Romeo has some of the best looking cars. The Giulia is one of the prettiest sports sedans ever IMO.
#1274
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The RS3 would murder the G37 in a straight line. It does 0-60 in the mid 3s and high 11s in the 1/4 mile.
I like C&Ds Lightening Lap, as it allows a relatively constant for comparison purposes. But I'm not one to track my car, so I wouldn't let the fact that the RS3 was 1 second slower than the STI RA be a deal killer. It's still a staggering 12 seconds faster than the G37S they tested back in 2008.
I like C&Ds Lightening Lap, as it allows a relatively constant for comparison purposes. But I'm not one to track my car, so I wouldn't let the fact that the RS3 was 1 second slower than the STI RA be a deal killer. It's still a staggering 12 seconds faster than the G37S they tested back in 2008.
I'd say I'm jaded with this new era of sports cars. I realize most everything is significantly faster than the G, but I just want the most bang for my buck. I guess I shouldn't write it off because it doesn't do as well when pushing the limits, which is something I rarely do on public roads. I guarantee is still handles quite a bit better than the G.
#1275
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My brother has a Camry and never had a front license plate for the last 10 years of owning it and never got a citation.
I'll gladly risk running no plates rather than drilling holes into the front bumper.