What vehicle will be a worthy replacement for your sedan when it is time?
#856
Registered Member
#857
Administrator
iTrader: (9)
You're nuts, OP. That GTO is awesome! The uniqueness of a Holden import, with the heritage of the GTO, and the legendary status of a Lingenfelter custom build. If that isn't special, IDK what is.
It's weird how we're both into our G's, but you lean towards go-karts like the Lotus, whereas I lean towards boat anchors like the old GTO. Big tent.
It's weird how we're both into our G's, but you lean towards go-karts like the Lotus, whereas I lean towards boat anchors like the old GTO. Big tent.
#858
Registered Member
iTrader: (3)
You're nuts, OP. That GTO is awesome! The uniqueness of a Holden import, with the heritage of the GTO, and the legendary status of a Lingenfelter custom build. If that isn't special, IDK what is.
It's weird how we're both into our G's, but you lean towards go-karts like the Lotus, whereas I lean towards boat anchors like the old GTO. Big tent.
It's weird how we're both into our G's, but you lean towards go-karts like the Lotus, whereas I lean towards boat anchors like the old GTO. Big tent.
That was made after Lingenfelter died, so I don't think it carries quite as much status. I use to love reading about his builds in Car & Driver and Motor Trend back in the day
In other future car news that only I care about.....the STI gets Apple Car and Android Auto for 2019, as well as the shorter 3rd gear from the RA to go along with the RA engine upgrades. I'm leaning towards Ice Silver Metallic with the wing delete
#859
You're nuts, OP. That GTO is awesome! The uniqueness of a Holden import, with the heritage of the GTO, and the legendary status of a Lingenfelter custom build. If that isn't special, IDK what is.
It's weird how we're both into our G's, but you lean towards go-karts like the Lotus, whereas I lean towards boat anchors like the old GTO. Big tent.
It's weird how we're both into our G's, but you lean towards go-karts like the Lotus, whereas I lean towards boat anchors like the old GTO. Big tent.
I'm not so into go carts, but high quality and light weight are appealing to me which is why the GTO is not- it's the exact opposite.
I am also scouring the internet constantly for new STI news. Wait until the next generation comes out. Trust me on this. The 2019 STI is still going to have the same engine, transmission, and AWD that they have been using since 2004!?!
#860
Administrator
iTrader: (9)
Not that I don't mostly disagree with you, and this being your thread, however... I briefly considered getting a 2009 Pontiac G8 GT, but the quality on that barge left a whole lot to be desired.
Dude, I'm a product of my youth, which was surrounded by crappy domestic muscle. And in that context, yes, that GTO is freaking awesome. (Except for the seats. I don't understand why the GTO seats are so dumb.)
Dude, I'm a product of my youth, which was surrounded by crappy domestic muscle. And in that context, yes, that GTO is freaking awesome. (Except for the seats. I don't understand why the GTO seats are so dumb.)
#861
Registered Member
iTrader: (3)
I don't want to wait until 2021, and I also don't want the inevitable electronic nannies that are almost guaranteed to be on the next gen. Subaru has already said there isn't going to be a hatchback/wagon, and that it will continue to be a sedan.
Worst case, it's super awesome x10 and I trade up to the next gen. Having had a STI, you know they have incredible resale value.
#862
Not that I don't mostly disagree with you, and this being your thread, however... I briefly considered getting a 2009 Pontiac G8 GT, but the quality on that barge left a whole lot to be desired.
Dude, I'm a product of my youth, which was surrounded by crappy domestic muscle. And in that context, yes, that GTO is freaking awesome. (Except for the seats. I don't understand why the GTO seats are so dumb.)
Dude, I'm a product of my youth, which was surrounded by crappy domestic muscle. And in that context, yes, that GTO is freaking awesome. (Except for the seats. I don't understand why the GTO seats are so dumb.)
I'm fine with all that--tons of support for the 2.5EJ, rod actuated 6MT, hydraulic steering, 3 LSDs, etc.
I don't want to wait until 2021, and I also don't want the inevitable electronic nannies that are almost guaranteed to be on the next gen. Subaru has already said there isn't going to be a hatchback/wagon, and that it will continue to be a sedan.
Worst case, it's super awesome x10 and I trade up to the next gen. Having had a STI, you know they have incredible resale value.
I don't want to wait until 2021, and I also don't want the inevitable electronic nannies that are almost guaranteed to be on the next gen. Subaru has already said there isn't going to be a hatchback/wagon, and that it will continue to be a sedan.
Worst case, it's super awesome x10 and I trade up to the next gen. Having had a STI, you know they have incredible resale value.
#863
Registered Member
iTrader: (3)
I also don't think they are going to drop much more than 330-340 horsepower into it. Worse case I flip it for a 2021 or 2022, but like I've said, I'm trying to set things up to get a 2 door something as a 3rd car in 4-5 years. I want to get back to having a toy car.
#864
They might, but I also think, like all new cars, there is going to be more tech than I want. I'm 40 going on 80 according to the younger guys I work with
I also don't think they are going to drop much more than 330-340 horsepower into it. Worse case I flip it for a 2021 or 2022, but like I've said, I'm trying to set things up to get a 2 door something as a 3rd car in 4-5 years. I want to get back to having a toy car.
I also don't think they are going to drop much more than 330-340 horsepower into it. Worse case I flip it for a 2021 or 2022, but like I've said, I'm trying to set things up to get a 2 door something as a 3rd car in 4-5 years. I want to get back to having a toy car.
The current or 2019 STI is not a bad car to consider if you are thinking of a more dedicated performance car in 4-5 years. Hopefully, they are not all electric by then. (fingers crossed) I had 2 cars once and I found that I was often driving the wrong one and did not really like the extra upkeep, insurance, storage space, etc. To each their own, but I usually like the swiss army knife of cars- lots of different uses.
#865
Administrator
iTrader: (9)
You are. I wasn't taking price into account for whatever intrinsic awesomeness the car has. By that logic, a Pontiac Aztek would be "awesome" if it passes inspection and costs $50. (No, it wouldn't. But you get my point, LOL)
So no, I wouldn't actually buy that particular GTO.
And yes, I would instead find a low-mileage one, probably in Cyclone Gray Metallic.
IDK why I like this so much. Just do.
So no, I wouldn't actually buy that particular GTO.
And yes, I would instead find a low-mileage one, probably in Cyclone Gray Metallic.
IDK why I like this so much. Just do.
Last edited by Rochester; 05-24-2018 at 05:19 PM.
#867
Registered Member
Anyone else read how the 2019 STI is gonna run around $40k...is that true???
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300654524.html
2019 SUBARU WRX AND WRX STI
Model/Trim
Transmission
Applicable Option Code
MSRP
MSRP + destination and delivery
WRX MODELS
Standard WRX
6MT
'01
$27,195
$28,080
WRX Premium
6MT
11, 12, 14
$29,495
$30,380
WRX Premium
CVT
13
$31,395
$32,280
WRX Limited
6MT
21, 22
$31,795
$32,680
WRX Limited
CVT
23,24
$33,695
$34,580
WRX STI MODELS
Standard WRX STI
6MT
'02 '03 '04
$36,595
$37,480
WRX STI Limited- Wing
6MT
21
$41,395
$42,280
WRX STI- Low Profile Trunk Spoiler
6MT
21
$41,395
$42,280
2019 SUBARU WRX AND STI OPTION PACKAGE MSRP
WRX MODELS
CODE 01 Standard Model WRX 6MT
N/A
CODE 11 Standard Model WRX Premium
N/A
CODE 12 Performance Package: RECARO® Front Seats, Red-Painted Brake Calipers, Moonroof Delete
$2,050
CODE 13 Standard Model WRX Premium CVT
N/A
CODE 14 Series.Gray WRX
$3,100
CODE 21 Standard Model WRX Limited 6MT
N/A
CODE 22 Navigation System + Audio w/ Harman Kardon® Amplifier and Speakers + Blind Spot Detection/ Rear Cross Traffic Alert
$2,100
CODE 23 Standard Model WRX CVT Limited
N/A
CODE 24 Navigation System + Audio w /Harman Kardon® Amplifier and Speakers + Blind Spot Detection/Rear Cross Traffic Alert + Reverse Auto Brake + High Beam Assist
$2,400
STI MODELS
CODE 02 Standard Model
N/A
CODE 03 RECARO® Front Seats + Keyless Access with Push Button Start
$2,500
CODE 04 Series.Gray STI
$3,100
CODE 21 Standard Model STI Limited
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300654524.html
2019 SUBARU WRX AND WRX STI
Model/Trim
Transmission
Applicable Option Code
MSRP
MSRP + destination and delivery
WRX MODELS
Standard WRX
6MT
'01
$27,195
$28,080
WRX Premium
6MT
11, 12, 14
$29,495
$30,380
WRX Premium
CVT
13
$31,395
$32,280
WRX Limited
6MT
21, 22
$31,795
$32,680
WRX Limited
CVT
23,24
$33,695
$34,580
WRX STI MODELS
Standard WRX STI
6MT
'02 '03 '04
$36,595
$37,480
WRX STI Limited- Wing
6MT
21
$41,395
$42,280
WRX STI- Low Profile Trunk Spoiler
6MT
21
$41,395
$42,280
2019 SUBARU WRX AND STI OPTION PACKAGE MSRP
WRX MODELS
CODE 01 Standard Model WRX 6MT
N/A
CODE 11 Standard Model WRX Premium
N/A
CODE 12 Performance Package: RECARO® Front Seats, Red-Painted Brake Calipers, Moonroof Delete
$2,050
CODE 13 Standard Model WRX Premium CVT
N/A
CODE 14 Series.Gray WRX
$3,100
CODE 21 Standard Model WRX Limited 6MT
N/A
CODE 22 Navigation System + Audio w/ Harman Kardon® Amplifier and Speakers + Blind Spot Detection/ Rear Cross Traffic Alert
$2,100
CODE 23 Standard Model WRX CVT Limited
N/A
CODE 24 Navigation System + Audio w /Harman Kardon® Amplifier and Speakers + Blind Spot Detection/Rear Cross Traffic Alert + Reverse Auto Brake + High Beam Assist
$2,400
STI MODELS
CODE 02 Standard Model
N/A
CODE 03 RECARO® Front Seats + Keyless Access with Push Button Start
$2,500
CODE 04 Series.Gray STI
$3,100
CODE 21 Standard Model STI Limited
#868
Registered Member
iTrader: (3)
2018 STI Limited has a MSRP of $40,895, the 2019 looks like it's getting an increase to $41,395.
So a $500 increase for Apple Car Play/Android Auto, shorter 3rd gear, and 310 horsepower. Hopefully that 5 horsepower bump is the full RA engine--revised intake, exhaust, tuning, pistons and sodium filled exhaust valves. Seems reasonable.
I'd expect the redesigned 2020 (or 2021) to get a bigger price bump
#870
Administrator
iTrader: (9)
Two thoughts. One is that you work in a Candy Store, LOL.
And the other... I wonder what the trade-in was for?
And the other... I wonder what the trade-in was for?