RobC7

I think gears alone would be enough of a difference!

AMS made 525 WHP / 581 TQ with stock turbos with e85 and ran a 10.47 @129mph in the 1/4.

And yes, the M2 is disappointingly ugly in line with everything else BMW is releasing now. The G80 has however grown on me, especially with the aftermarket CF grille inserts.

RobC7

Awesome to see support from Nismo on the Z, which also means we have more parts support for our Gs! I do like how the wheels and shift **** look but I wish Nismo would make an appear package like they did with the 350z "Nismo S-tune".


Some more pictures and information:
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a4...e-parts-new-z/

STownSaint

Quite possibly the last ICE Z car

Not tryna be a doomsday conspirist, but the Z lifecycle has been very long and OEM commitments to electrify are only getting more and more ambitious.

Glad to see how well done this model is

Selym

You're not being a doomsday conspiracist. EVs will be jammed down our throats, by hook or by crook, no matter how little sense they make for many of us.

RA081224

Sad but true. At least some of the manufacturers are making EV's that you actually want to drive / be seen in. I mean the Leaf and Prius are totally functional, but both are a hard pass for me because there so fugly

si_driver

Porsche cayman

Rochester

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Today marks the first time in 25 years that I looked at a Toyota Prius and thought... damn-n-n-n.

Gorgeous style, 50 mpg give or take, and 200 hp in the AWD model, with 38 miles of EV range.

BoomerSpeed01

My hand is being forced, we are expecting our third child around August 2023... I'm likely going to be getting a 3rd row SUV.

Right now I'm thinking Durango, Suburban or Nissan Armada. The Infiniti JX35 / QX60 would be an option but that's what my wife has so I don't want two of the same cars.

BoomerSpeed01

They're finally making it "not ugly" as least lol Front end has some essence of the Corolla and the rear has a bit of Tesla Model 3 going on in my opinion.
If gas doesn't come down to where it was pre-covid, more and more people are going to at least consider getting a Prius if they look like this.

Rochester

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This article (linked below) was written when the US national average was $4.08 per gallon, and it's currently $3.72.

That might seem like a lot, and it certainly hurts people just trying to get buy. However, if you look at adjusted dollars, that's about right, historically speaking over the last 44 years. Granted, we had a nearly 2 decade stretch of really inexpensive gas, a streak that ended around 2005, so it's hard to shake the "I remember when" feelings.

http://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/13/how-m...ince-1978.html

I think feelings about the cost of gas are somewhat like today's feelings about the overall cost of cars, both new and used. It's difficult to reconcile what's current to what was only yesterday. God knows I struggle with what's happened to the cost of cars. But gas... I don't lose sleep over gas. Then again, I don't own a business with a fleet of delivery trucks.

RA081224

It just dipped below $5.00 a gallon around me. I do hope Ca will be done paying for the sins of its stupidity sometime soon

+1 but then also I hardly drive at all anymore. A tank lasts me nearly a month

BoomerSpeed01

Wow, I wish my gas lasted a month lol I put at least 25k miles on my car each year, and a tank of gas lasts right around a week at best.
Sure I could get a car that is better on gas, but life is too short for boring cars

RobC7

Can we stay on topic, this is a thread for worthy replacement for your G37 Sedan

Rochester

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Sure, Rob. It does have the word "worthy" in the title.

iCrap

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I can't even hate. That Prius is one of the nicer looking new cars lol.