What vehicle will be a worthy replacement for your sedan when it is time?
08-18-2021, 07:38 PM
#3676
ConceptZ made a kit to convert the Q60 (CV37) from 7AT to 6MT. This was supposed to be made available for general sale but I have not kept up with that project.
The way I see it, if the 400Z is using the same VR30 engine and pairing it to a 6MT, from factory, then it stands to reason the same parts should fit the Q's- obviously with a little rigging (ie. bracing, driveshaft, interior changes (pedal/shifter), etc.). Nothing near as complicated as what ConceptZ devised...
I have a 5AT. I wanted a 6MT but there wasn't any available at the time. Oh well, 13 years and currently 113K miles later and no regrets. My beater pickup is a 5MT and the slave just crapped out last week so I'm reminded why MT's can be a PITA at times. I'm dreading having to drop that gearbox and go through all that crap. I'm no spring chicken anymore, either.
The way I see it, if the 400Z is using the same VR30 engine and pairing it to a 6MT, from factory, then it stands to reason the same parts should fit the Q's- obviously with a little rigging (ie. bracing, driveshaft, interior changes (pedal/shifter), etc.). Nothing near as complicated as what ConceptZ devised...
I have a 5AT. I wanted a 6MT but there wasn't any available at the time. Oh well, 13 years and currently 113K miles later and no regrets. My beater pickup is a 5MT and the slave just crapped out last week so I'm reminded why MT's can be a PITA at times. I'm dreading having to drop that gearbox and go through all that crap. I'm no spring chicken anymore, either.
Last edited by ILM-NC G37S; 08-18-2021 at 07:46 PM.
08-18-2021, 07:44 PM
#3677
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Brother.
Anyway, staring at this Z, and imagining a high-end aftermarket exhaust, with a notchy short throw shifter... man that could be a rewarding car to own, age notwithstanding.
If the body is still willing in 3 years or so, this could be the retirement toy.
Anyway, staring at this Z, and imagining a high-end aftermarket exhaust, with a notchy short throw shifter... man that could be a rewarding car to own, age notwithstanding.
If the body is still willing in 3 years or so, this could be the retirement toy.
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08-18-2021, 08:06 PM
#3679
Although, most trucks in my experience use an external slave. Unless this is a GM, in which case... good luck, and godspeed.
From reading CZ's notes on the Q60 conversion, sourcing the internal parts (console, clutch pedal, drilling out the pedal mounting etc) and getting the ECU to behave without the 7AT were the hardest parts. I'd think that if you use the new Z's ECU in whatever chassis you put it into, you'd skip some of that trouble. Of course, you'd have a time getting instruments and such to work with the G/Q cluster and radio...
08-18-2021, 08:23 PM
#3680
No, it's internal- Ford (Mazda). So, I'll be crawling on the ground fiddling with that come this fall when the weather breaks- unless I opt to unload it and get something else. It is 22 years old with just under 250K miles, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I can almost bet that most of the powertrain parts bin for the Zed will work for the Q's.
I can almost bet that most of the powertrain parts bin for the Zed will work for the Q's.
Last edited by ILM-NC G37S; 08-18-2021 at 09:08 PM.
08-25-2021, 02:05 AM
#3681
My main concern is the appearance of electrically assisted power steering. I was holding out some hope the hydraulic rack would stay. It makes sense why they would do this, but I hope their ability to tune it for decent feedback has improved since the early Q50 years.
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08-25-2021, 09:50 AM
#3683
Electric assist steering can be done well. The 2004 era Mini Cooper, the newer Miatas, the RX-8 all had electric steering only and had excellent feedback and feel. They just have to engineer it for folks that want sharp steering response and feedback, and not for the land barge set.
08-26-2021, 03:04 PM
#3685
Wasn't the issue with the early Q50/Q60 electric steering the fact that it was possible for it to work without using the actual steering rack so the feeling was completely artificial? I think Nissan has learned from that mistake so I would imagine it would be good. Especially with all of the talk from Nissan about this car having a great connection with the driver. Only time will tell.
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So much want.
08-26-2021, 05:36 PM
#3688
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That orange and black is sexy
08-26-2021, 08:03 PM
#3690
Wasn't the issue with the early Q50/Q60 electric steering the fact that it was possible for it to work without using the actual steering rack so the feeling was completely artificial? I think Nissan has learned from that mistake so I would imagine it would be good. Especially with all of the talk from Nissan about this car having a great connection with the driver. Only time will tell.
The truth is a lot of customers will never complain about numb steering as they've never known better. Some even expect a nice car to isolate them and don't want to feel the wheel tugging and wiggling, as BMW claims for their recently Novocained steering setups. Even reviewers now talk about light steering as a virtue even if they still (mildly) complain about numbness. I hope they tune this one for the enthusiasts.