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Old 12-09-2020, 02:29 PM
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Thanks. The Direct Adaptive Steering is optional, but when I look at the 2021 online it looks like they are all at least electronic steering. Confusing since the last one I drove maybe a year ago did not have the Direct Adaptive Steering and my Infiniti rep claimed that it was a hydraulic steering unit. It felt much better than the one in my recent video and really just like my car. Now when I search for hydraulic steering in the Q50S there are lots of articles that claim that the Q50S was supposed to get a hydraulic rack, but only a few that claim it actually has it. At this point, who the hell knows?
So out of curiosity, I went to the Infiniti website and built a Q50 Red Sport 400. The $1,950 ProActive Package includes Direct Adaptive Steering, Radiant front emblem and blind spot intervention. Skip this package, and you would seemingly get hydraulic steering. I wonder how many cars don't have this package though.....
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Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac
So out of curiosity, I went to the Infiniti website and built a Q50 Red Sport 400. The $1,950 ProActive Package includes Direct Adaptive Steering, Radiant front emblem and blind spot intervention. Skip this package, and you would seemingly get hydraulic steering. I wonder how many cars don't have this package though.....
But I gotta have my Radiant Front Emblem!!!!
Old 12-09-2020, 04:56 PM
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If the Q50 can be optioned with hydraulic steering that's a huge "" moment. The main complaint is the feeling so if you can get it optioned with hydraulic steering....
Old 12-09-2020, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RMB5190
If the Q50 can be optioned with hydraulic steering that's a huge "" moment. The main complaint is the feeling so if you can get it optioned with hydraulic steering....
If I'm reading this correctly, it's the Direct Adaptive Steering that is the option--hydraulic is standard. Skip the blind spot monitoring, and it looks like you're good to go. The radiant front emblem looks to be available as a stand alone option for those of you who are into that

Old 12-09-2020, 05:14 PM
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Electric power steering is standard:

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2...w-first-drive/

Got a little excited for a second.
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Electric power steering is standard:

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2...w-first-drive/

Got a little excited for a second.
So, electric power steering or optional electric power steering?

Old 12-09-2020, 05:43 PM
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In that article I thought it said electrical steering was standard while DAS was optional.
Old 12-09-2020, 06:46 PM
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I’m lost. Are they not both electric power steering systems?
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They are. DAS is the optional package. Based on what I've been reading from owners who have driven both (DAS v. non-DAS), DAS is the superior set-up compared to the non-DAS cars. The heavier steering is actually noticeable in sport+ compared to the standard drive mode; where-as for the non-DAS cars, owners have said there's virtually no change between the settings/drive modes.

Also, 2018+ models received an updated DAS compared to the earlier models. These owners mention it's a great improvement over DAS '1.0' in the pre 2018 models.
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Originally Posted by RMB5190
They are. DAS is the optional package. Based on what I've been reading from owners who have driven both (DAS v. non-DAS), DAS is the superior set-up compared to the non-DAS cars. The heavier steering is actually noticeable in sport+ compared to the standard drive mode; where-as for the non-DAS cars, owners have said there's virtually no change between the settings/drive modes.

Also, 2018+ models received an updated DAS compared to the earlier models. These owners mention it's a great improvement over DAS '1.0' in the pre 2018 models.
More fuel for the fire: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a1...stem-for-2016/

So...........does any Q50 get hydraulic steering, or just two different types of electric steering?
Old 12-10-2020, 01:25 PM
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I tracked that down pretty hard when I was shopping a year and a half ago, and I'm 95% sure a journalist misunderstood a press release. They made DAS optional but all are electric steering. Some like one or the other better, (increasingly DAS after some incremental improvements) but neither feels as nice as the G. I can't totally blame them since this is the way of the future and they are obviously benchmarking competitors, but it's still a bummer and not as good an execution as their German rivals.

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Old 12-10-2020, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RMB5190
Thanks - so the one in the video did not have DAS equipped and you'd say it was a better 'feeling' car?
No, I was told that the Q50S Red Sport I drove about a year ago did not have the DAS option and I do not remember the steering being as vague initially as the one in the car I recently drove in the video. When I drove the car a year ago I was told that it had hydraulic steering, but I cannot find any proof of that now. Maybe the earlier models 2016-2017 had hydraulic steering standard. When I look under "specs" on the Infiniti website for the 2021 Q50 it looks like they all have electric steering and DAS is an option.
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I'll post any news about the manual CT4/5 because it's awesome GM is sticking to it!
https://gmauthority.com/blog/2020/12...printed-parts/
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Old 12-10-2020, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RMB5190
Thanks - so the one in the video did not have DAS equipped and you'd say it was a better 'feeling' car?
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I'll post any news about the manual CT4/5 because it's awesome GM is sticking to it!
https://gmauthority.com/blog/2020/12...printed-parts/
I am very interested in the new CTV-4 Blackwing, STI, and Z because they are all supposed to be available with a manual transmission. Now could they just release them already?!? It's sad to think that only about 2% of vehicle sales are with a stick shift. So much more fun to drive.
Old 12-10-2020, 05:01 PM
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Are you thinking a new CTV4 Blackwing, or one with a couple years on it, a couple of years from whenever it comes out?


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