What vehicle will be a worthy replacement for your sedan when it is time?
#2731
Yesterday Autocar claimed that Nissan is moving forward with their new Z car despite their current financial woes, the car will be called the 400Z, and it will use the Infiniti twin turbo V6 with 400 hp as well as continue to use the FM (front midship- engine placement) platform. They say the styling with be influenced by the 240Z in the front and the 300ZX in the rear. The interior will also get an overhaul with new tech. They claim the car will debut within the next 12 months and should be available with a manual transmission. Yay! Nothing too new here, but it sounds more solid that the car is coming. I am just surprised that it will beat the new STI to market.
Yesterday Carbuzz announced that the performance versions of the CT4-V and CT5-V will be called "Blackwing" even though neither will have the Blackwing motor. Instead they are supposed to used improved versions of the engines found in the ATS-V and CTS-V. Both cars were tested around VIR (Virginia International Raceway) and found to be "seconds faster" than their predecessors. The best news is that both cars will be available with manual transmissions. Yay again!
Yesterday Carbuzz announced that the performance versions of the CT4-V and CT5-V will be called "Blackwing" even though neither will have the Blackwing motor. Instead they are supposed to used improved versions of the engines found in the ATS-V and CTS-V. Both cars were tested around VIR (Virginia International Raceway) and found to be "seconds faster" than their predecessors. The best news is that both cars will be available with manual transmissions. Yay again!
#2732
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We had a 3rd car that ended up just sitting in the garage after we started a family. I sold it to fund a fence for the backyard and a cat-back for my G37 lol. I largely have my wife on board with a 3rd car once I payoff the R. As long as the monthly payment doesn't change much, it's kind of built into the budget.
We both work and are dependent (well, were dependent) on cars to commute - different directions from the house too. So having a spare in the garage for when one needs repairs / is in the shop to me makes sense - to her not so much. For me it doesn't even have to be a sporty car - an old Ford Ranger 4x4 would make a lot of sense as homeowners with a utility trailer and that live in a swamp that is prone to floods and hurricanes and idiots.
Originally Posted by 4DRZ
Life is short, your income doubled, buy the car if you want it.
That isn't how married finances work lol. It doubled but not enough to afford a divorce...
#2733
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Life is short, your income doubled, buy the car if you want it.
On the flip side, I have tried two cars for myself before and just found I would rather have the convenience and garage space of just one car that does everything well. However, one car that has a stick shift, is a good daily driver, can take my daughter to school, drive through the winter, and be wicked fast on track is a tall order. They do exist, but not many.
On the flip side, I have tried two cars for myself before and just found I would rather have the convenience and garage space of just one car that does everything well. However, one car that has a stick shift, is a good daily driver, can take my daughter to school, drive through the winter, and be wicked fast on track is a tall order. They do exist, but not many.
If you go the three car route, it might be worth it to get something a bit newer and already somewhat put together (see. lightly modded). Options are very limited for anything MT, with a decent platform to mod/play with and isn't clapped out. It also might not be the most popular choice on the forums but as long as it works for you and you're enjoying it
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#2734
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We both work and are dependent (well, were dependent) on cars to commute - different directions from the house too. So having a spare in the garage for when one needs repairs / is in the shop to me makes sense - to her not so much. For me it doesn't even have to be a sporty car - an old Ford Ranger 4x4 would make a lot of sense as homeowners with a utility trailer and that live in a swamp that is prone to floods and hurricanes and idiots.
#2735
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I'm conflicted. My wife doesn't like buying anything without a warranty ie new, after having a lot of maintenance issues with her Mini when it was beyond the 4 year factory warranty. It was a 2 year conversation to get her onboard with buying the used G37, and mostly because I wouldn't shut up about wanting something power/weight like my RX8 and stick shift, but needed to hold the baby seat. I don't want a new anything, I'd prefer old and simple. Something like my 96 Jeep Cherokee, but not an SUV maybe.
Part of the deal with married finances is past agreements - in this case, she supported me through grad school and the first 5 years as a professional not making a lot of income, and some of those living costs were financed. Now we're paying back those loans, and with the new income it just got faster. So in 2-3 years we will be better positioned such that I could accidentally bring a Miata home from the dealer without tanking our plans or relationship. She'd still be mad tho - but not *as* mad, and managing your spouse's irritation level with you is definitely a part of a long term relationship (this year is 16), Incidentally in 2-3 years my daughter will not need a child seat any more so 2-seaters become more practical, if not truly 100% practical.
This isn't to say that I don't see any rewards from the raise - just bought a (nice) guitar and Smith and Wesson is getting my competition pistol back for the custom shop. And swaybars and a tune for the G are agreed to once my current mods are completed.
#2736
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So in 2-3 years we will be better positioned such that I could accidentally bring a Miata home from the dealer without tanking our plans or relationship. She'd still be mad tho - but not *as* mad, and managing your spouse's irritation level with you is definitely a part of a long term relationship
#2738
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Yesterday Autocar claimed that Nissan is moving forward with their new Z car despite their current financial woes, the car will be called the 400Z, and it will use the Infiniti twin turbo V6 with 400 hp as well as continue to use the FM (front midship- engine placement) platform. They say the styling with be influenced by the 240Z in the front and the 300ZX in the rear. The interior will also get an overhaul with new tech. They claim the car will debut within the next 12 months and should be available with a manual transmission. Yay! Nothing too new here, but it sounds more solid that the car is coming. I am just surprised that it will beat the new STI to market.
Yesterday Carbuzz announced that the performance versions of the CT4-V and CT5-V will be called "Blackwing" even though neither will have the Blackwing motor. Instead they are supposed to used improved versions of the engines found in the ATS-V and CTS-V. Both cars were tested around VIR (Virginia International Raceway) and found to be "seconds faster" than their predecessors. The best news is that both cars will be available with manual transmissions. Yay again!
Yesterday Carbuzz announced that the performance versions of the CT4-V and CT5-V will be called "Blackwing" even though neither will have the Blackwing motor. Instead they are supposed to used improved versions of the engines found in the ATS-V and CTS-V. Both cars were tested around VIR (Virginia International Raceway) and found to be "seconds faster" than their predecessors. The best news is that both cars will be available with manual transmissions. Yay again!
CT5V Blackwing I will be very interested in but again there is no way I can swing 85k for the car. I would be in the market for a 2-3 year old car that has taken a depreciation hit.
#2739
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If past is pro-log, the base model will hover around $30 and the fully loaded model over $40... with a $50k NISMO making its debut after a few years.
#2740
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They need to go back to the basics & introduce only two models: base (35k) & fully loaded (45k), only options being transmission & possibly a 'track package'. A year or two into the run introduce a Nismo model that be in the 50-60k range. The Nismo model needs to be a comprehensive power/suspension/aesthetic package that can give the more expensive cars (c8, supra, performance variants of other domestics & europeans) a run for their money.
#2741
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I fear they're going to have both Q50/60 power trains... base with 300hp and sport with 400hp.
Much, much, MUCH rather they use the 400hp engine only, but seriously doubt it.
Much, much, MUCH rather they use the 400hp engine only, but seriously doubt it.
#2742
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I don't want a new anything, I'd prefer old and simple. Something like my 96 Jeep Cherokee, but not an SUV maybe.
Part of the deal with married finances is past agreements - in this case, she supported me through grad school and the first 5 years as a professional not making a lot of income, and some of those living costs were financed. Now we're paying back those loans, and with the new income it just got faster. So in 2-3 years we will be better positioned such that I could accidentally bring a Miata home from the dealer without tanking our plans or relationship. She'd still be mad tho - but not *as* mad, and managing your spouse's irritation level with you is definitely a part of a long term relationship (this year is 16), Incidentally in 2-3 years my daughter will not need a child seat any more so 2-seaters become more practical, if not truly 100% practical.
So, I saw a Ferrari 812 this morning drive by me. My first time seeing this thing too, since I recall Ferrari hyping this up back in 2017. I've got to say, it looked pretty atrocious. And I'm not the jealous type of person to hate on someone's car because it is expensive, in fact I'm the opposite and always complement them if they look nice. This thing was all black, with dealer plates, and it was probably the first time I thought a Ferrari looked ugly. Looks like the older F12 a bit, but with more Corvette and LC500 mixed into it. Would I want to drive one of those? Yes. Would I own one? No, wouldn't want to be seen in something that ugly plus the nannies have ruined the Ferrari's pleasurable driving ever since the release of the 458 Italia back in 2010 and resulted in the driving experience becoming very boring. A rule of thumb I noticed from Ferrari owners is that anything pre-458 is amazing, while anything post-458 is fast (beautiful too, for some eyes), but very bland to drive ever since they added electric power steering, nannies, etc from what I've been told by owners of both.
Question for you all though. If you had to choose between Ferrari or Lamborghini, which would you choose and which model if price was not the issue? I would choose the Ferrari F40 since it was the last car Enzo Ferrari got to see himself, plus the whole driving experience seems more geared towards my personality. I would drive that thing everyday, and would take it to the race track courses.
#2743
I think they have an opportunity to make the 400z something really cool, however they need to keep the overall cost down. It can't be as expensive as the Supra. The 300zx TT struggled as the price went up every MY and the 370z started to make less sense once the domestic cars were able to deliver more power and better handling.
CT5V Blackwing I will be very interested in but again there is no way I can swing 85k for the car. I would be in the market for a 2-3 year old car that has taken a depreciation hit.
CT5V Blackwing I will be very interested in but again there is no way I can swing 85k for the car. I would be in the market for a 2-3 year old car that has taken a depreciation hit.
No, wouldn't want to be seen in something that ugly plus the nannies have ruined the Ferrari's pleasurable driving ever since the release of the 458 Italia back in 2010 and resulted in the driving experience becoming very boring. A rule of thumb I noticed from Ferrari owners is that anything pre-458 is amazing, while anything post-458 is fast (beautiful too, for some eyes), but very bland to drive ever since they added electric power steering, nannies, etc from what I've been told by owners of both.
Question for you all though. If you had to choose between Ferrari or Lamborghini, which would you choose and which model if price was not the issue? I would choose the Ferrari F40 since it was the last car Enzo Ferrari got to see himself, plus the whole driving experience seems more geared towards my personality. I would drive that thing everyday, and would take it to the race track courses.
Question for you all though. If you had to choose between Ferrari or Lamborghini, which would you choose and which model if price was not the issue? I would choose the Ferrari F40 since it was the last car Enzo Ferrari got to see himself, plus the whole driving experience seems more geared towards my personality. I would drive that thing everyday, and would take it to the race track courses.
If I had to choose between a Lamborghini and a Ferrari it would be the Ferrari 288 GTO. The F40 is a good car, but it seems to be everyone's favorite. The 288 GTO was the second Ferrari to be named "GTO" because it was produced for an actual race series- the insane Group B rally cars that got cancelled because they were deemed to fast and dangerous. Another car that was designed for that series, but never got to race was the Porsche 959- just to give you an idea of how ahead of their time these cars were. The F40 looks like a race car, but the 288 GTO is an actual race car and I would argue it has a much more organic and beautiful style. You would normally think it is just a really beautiful classic Ferrari, but underneath the skin it is all race car. A lot of people don't know this, but the F40 actually uses the same engine as the 288 GTO. The GTO is just a lot more rare than an F40. A wealthy local car nut had a 288 GTO and it was even more amazing in person than in pictures. I didn't think that would be possible because I think it would be very difficult to take a bad picture of this car.
#2744
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I agree with you to a point on the styling of new Ferraris as they all look so similar to each other that they are difficult to tell apart sometimes. I'm all for an analog driving experience with a stick shift too, but seriously Joyryde, you need to get off your soap box about any type of new technology in cars being awful. It's getting really old. My boss has had a number of Ferraris post-458. I have been fortunate enough to drive them and they are anything but "bland to drive." Ferraris don't have nannies. They have F1 inspired stability control systems with limits so far beyond the worthless VDC system in our car that it is not even worth comparing the two. The steering and handling in our cars is good, but to compare it to any new Ferrari is like comparing a Pontiac to a brand new Porsche 911. Not even in the same universe.
If I had to choose between a Lamborghini and a Ferrari it would be the Ferrari 288 GTO. The F40 is a good car, but it seems to be everyone's favorite. The 288 GTO was the second Ferrari to be named "GTO" because it was produced for an actual race series- the insane Group B rally cars that got cancelled because they were deemed to fast and dangerous. Another car that was designed for that series, but never got to race was the Porsche 959- just to give you an idea of how ahead of their time these cars were. The F40 looks like a race car, but the 288 GTO is an actual race car and I would argue it has a much more organic and beautiful style. You would normally think it is just a really beautiful classic Ferrari, but underneath the skin it is all race car. A lot of people don't know this, but the F40 actually uses the same engine as the 288 GTO. The GTO is just a lot more rare than an F40. A wealthy local car nut had a 288 GTO and it was even more amazing in person than in pictures. I didn't think that would be possible because I think it would be very difficult to take a bad picture of this car.
If I had to choose between a Lamborghini and a Ferrari it would be the Ferrari 288 GTO. The F40 is a good car, but it seems to be everyone's favorite. The 288 GTO was the second Ferrari to be named "GTO" because it was produced for an actual race series- the insane Group B rally cars that got cancelled because they were deemed to fast and dangerous. Another car that was designed for that series, but never got to race was the Porsche 959- just to give you an idea of how ahead of their time these cars were. The F40 looks like a race car, but the 288 GTO is an actual race car and I would argue it has a much more organic and beautiful style. You would normally think it is just a really beautiful classic Ferrari, but underneath the skin it is all race car. A lot of people don't know this, but the F40 actually uses the same engine as the 288 GTO. The GTO is just a lot more rare than an F40. A wealthy local car nut had a 288 GTO and it was even more amazing in person than in pictures. I didn't think that would be possible because I think it would be very difficult to take a bad picture of this car.
Very good choice. Although, you are almost correct with the same engine statement. You see, they have different head gaskets due to turbos and the 288's engine (F114B) has an 80 mm bore and a 71 mm stroke. While the F40's (renamed F120A, but shared the same architecture either way) had an 81.9 mm bore and 69.5 mm stroke. Either way, they still shared the same structure all the way to the 360 (which had an 85 mm bore and 89 mm stroke) from what I've researched long ago. The F40 has gained too much popularity in recent years, I agree, and its mainly due to mainstream exposure (Gas Monkey, videogames, youtube) Before choosing the F40 as one I'd want as a dream, I was torn between deciding the F40 or the Enzo. They're both awesome machines, but I'd end up with the F40 mainly because it has a 5 speed manual transmission (save the manuals ) as opposed to the Enzo's automatic. We can throw in the Maserati MC12 as it and the Enzo are basically the same car, with the MC12 having a detuned engine, steel brakes, and a bit more down-force. But I bet the average buyer wouldn't notice any feeling.
You mentioned Porsche and it brought a flashback of an old friend's Porsche 996 I got to drive, in manual. That car gets so much crap for the headlights, but it's one of my favorites. I still have a photo of me sitting in that car in my photo book. I remember he spent $10,000 dollars for a set of rims, and his wife was about to kill him because of it The 997s are probably the last good generation in my book, as the new ones look generic and they don't have the curves like the 997, and because the new ones have a butt-load of electronics that I do not like. My previous neighbor had a bright red 80s Carrera Turbo with the whale tail. My oh my, that car looked gorgeous. I always inspected it whenever I walked past it.
A little bit of Ferrari candy for your eyes. Still gives me goosebumps to this day, even when looking at online pictures.
#2745
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A relatively undisguised MK8 Golf R was spotted lapping the Nurburgring
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...burgring-tests
Still speculating there will not be a MT. Pretty serious looking seats if you peer through the windshield.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...burgring-tests
Still speculating there will not be a MT. Pretty serious looking seats if you peer through the windshield.