qmantran

Lego_Maniac

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Does that mean you sold your G?

JSolo

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^^Yes. It was a tough choice but things aligned in a way that made sense (barely). I still have mixed feelings about doing so but for once, sensibility prevailed. During tonight's exercise session, another crazy thought entered my mind.... The ktm super duke gt...

https://www.myg37.com/forums/g37-sed...ml#post4249384

RMB5190

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I'm anticipating Toyota having difficulties moving the Supra with the unveiling of the C8; especially at $57k+. Anticipating these dropping in price in order to move them.

Rochester

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I agree. More to the point, there's nothing about the new Supra that speaks to me. Not one thing. (Wait, no, I like the trunk emblem. That's cool.)

For that money and that brand, you could buy a Sienna and a Toyota 86 both.

qmantran

$57k is for the launch edition version. The regular models should be about $52k.

I don't think it's terrible for a car that makes nearly 400 wheel horse power. I got to drive it and it was fun.

Lego_Maniac

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I wasn't expecting you to sell the G and keep the Accord

Understand though, I'm a big Accord fan, my wife has a '17 Touring (last of the V6 generation). It's dead nuts reliable, more than adequately powerful, easily gets 29-30 mpg in mix used driving, and can swallow a family of 4s crap with room to spare for a week long vacation.

Looks like there might be another bike in your future though

4DRZ

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That nosecone front end is still hideous, but the back looks pretty nice. What is added to the launch edition to make it cost $5k more than the regular Supra?

guy from norcal

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I really like the back end of it. The front not so much

woofersus

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Delayed response.... I drove a coupe. I wouldn't rule it out necessarily, but I do think the sedan looks better. I do recall how quiet my G was - I didn't even go super loud with it. Just high-flow filter, post-MAF tubes, RHFC's, and an Invidia Q300 catback. I didn't have any drone and the car sounded great. I won't hold that against a car too much. Not to rub salt in a wound, but a week before I hit the deer I had stopped off at the same lot just to peek at a black 2016 ATS-V sedan 6mt that they were having trouble getting rid of. Practically giving it away for $36k at fairly low miles, I think. If that popped up again, I'd probably grab it. I still think my wife will hate driving a manual and not bother ever getting comfortable with it, but she's decided she would like to learn and has given me the green light to buy one. I won't let it be a deciding factor for me, though. Just a preference.

By way of update, they have taken my G away and we're a one-car household. I have utterly failed at finding an M240i, 340i RWD, or 440i RWD to test drive near me, new or used. (I'd prefer RWD for any of them, but with the M240i you get the real M Sport suspension and brakes, where as with the 3 or 4 the AWD cars always get the standard marshmallow setup so the "M Sport" package is really just the steering wheel and limiter increase) BMW option packages are a maddening labyrinth, btw. I did find a 2018 M240i with 8000 miles on it in Columbus that looked nice - Black paint, black wheels, black trim, Estoril Blue calipers, Black SensaTec interior, nav, cold weather package. It was priced at $39k which is more than I'm supposed to be spending but I thought maybe there was a hefty markup I could eat into. It took me three days to get down to see it, and it had already sold to somebody out of state, sight unseen. They couldn't let me drive it, but they did let my wife and I get in and see how it fit, which was a legitimate concern for me. I found it fairly comfortable, if not flush with elbow room. Easy to find a good driving position, and the seats aren't all that confining but I was fairly locked in between the door and console without any discomfort. My wife actually pretty well fell in love with it. (this is her way with cars) Alas, still no drive. Another just popped up at the same dealer today and the salesman gave me a call. It's not there yet, but I'm going to try to go drive it as soon as the truck drops it off on Monday.

Also, I've been learning about CPO programs, and some of these "prestige" brands have pretty great ones. BMW's isn't the absolute best ($50 deductible on work after the original warranty - $200 to transfer) but it does extend the OEM warranty (4/50) by an extra year at UNLIMITED MILES. The way they talked about it at the dealership made it sound like that essentially gives them a 5yr, unlimited miles warranty. I need to figure out how this works. That Unlimited year could start as soon as the original warranty runs out, but if it ran out due to miles, how would they know? If I have a VANOS failure at 4.5yrs and 150k miles, is that covered? Their fine print says no wear & tear like suspension, brakes, tires, etc., which I expected. If anybody has experience with one of these, please chime in. Obviously how smooth such things go always depends on the dealer... Such a program would have fairly significant value to me over buying from an indy lot or private party or whatever. I drive around 33k miles per year, so a 5yr loan on a bmw becomes concerning given their reputation. (which my research suggests is actually a lot better these days - sort of middle of the pack, really)

woofersus

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Scarcity and bragging rights. It's a color package, essentially.

SupraOfDoom

MK5, no thanks. No Toyota motor, no 6 speed, and it's kinda looking stock. Yeah I like what the race teams are doing with them (2JZ's, widebody's), but I don't have that kind of money. Price is too high too IMO. Look at the Q50/60 red sports.... cheaper and they come with nice calipers on the back too lol.

RMB5190

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Even at $52k, I'm not sure there's enough there to make me want one. No doubt they are a blast to drive but considering what else is out there that's in that monetary range is what makes it a hard sell. There's even options that are $15-20k less than the Supra that would match the power levels with some basic bolt-ons.

In my opinion, the most appealing thing about them is Toyota's claim to fame = reliability. A BMW powertrain was a bit of a risk on their part, despite the potential of them. There's no telling what could cause a dealer to deny a warranty claim if any power mods are added so unless you are contempt with keeping it stock I don't really think the risk outweighs the reward in this scenario.

A lightly used Coyote Mustang with a VMP blower attached to it would decimate that car at a fraction of the cost with no actual risk of breaking anything.

Rochester

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Here's a close-up of the new Vette's button bar, filled with fancy tech like heated seats, air vent options, and a rear window defogger.

Wow!

JSolo

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Who needs cell phones for distracting driving when they have all those buttons!!