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Old 10-19-2016, 10:09 PM
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Only a click when trying to start

Well this is interesting...
This morning I went to start my 11 G37S and when I pushed the start button all I got was a "click". I tried a few times and nothing. The last few days, I would get the same "click" but after 2-3 attempts it would start.

The battery voltage was 12.3 volts which indicated about a 50-60% charge. I put on a 10 amp charger for 30 minutes. I tried to start it and all I got was a "click"

So I assumed the 3 year old battery was done and purchased a new one. With a brand new battery measuring 12.7 volts, all I got was a "click" when I hit the start button.

Tomorrow I will be measuring the voltage at the start to see if it is the starter, or starter relay, or start relay control. (FSM page STR-9)

I also tried two different key fobs and got the same result, so I don't think it is a anti-theft system malfunction.

Any other thoughts or suggestions?

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Old 10-20-2016, 10:04 AM
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Battery connections?
Old 10-20-2016, 12:24 PM
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Update: It is the starter motor.

Starter has a strong 12.6 volts at the "B" terminal and when the start button is pushed, 12.3 volts at the "S" terminal.
Time to remove the starter and disassemble it to see the root cause.

It looks like it is a little difficult to remove... wish me luck.

Update:
The fsm shows the hard way... for rear wheel drive, you don't have to remove the ujoint by the steering rack, unbolt the lower motor mount and lift the motor up to get it out..

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Old 10-20-2016, 02:27 PM
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Problem fixed:

The external connection (bolt/washer) between the start solenoid and the starter motor was arcing. Some 300 grit sand paper and all will be good!
Old 10-20-2016, 04:30 PM
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Thanks for the info and glad to hear you got it figured out.
Old 10-20-2016, 05:40 PM
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Nice!! Happy that you were able to take care of it. Appreciate the information
Old 11-10-2016, 02:37 PM
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Just to wrap this up... here is where it was arcing. It was between the nut and washer on the connection between the starter motor and the starter solenoid.

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Old 11-17-2016, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicVQ
Update: It is the starter motor.

Starter has a strong 12.6 volts at the "B" terminal and when the start button is pushed, 12.3 volts at the "S" terminal.
Time to remove the starter and disassemble it to see the root cause.

It looks like it is a little difficult to remove... wish me luck.

Update:
The fsm shows the hard way... for rear wheel drive, you don't have to remove the ujoint by the steering rack, unbolt the lower motor mount and lift the motor up to get it out..
I know you figured it out, but this may be a more common issue as I had the exact same issues and had to replace my starter as well. Mine is a 2012, so went out a bit earlier (warranty replaced).
Old 11-17-2016, 03:26 PM
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^^^ I agree.
In my case that nut/washer had not been touched since it left the factory. I suspect every dealer will simply replace the starter, when it can be fixed for no cost. (OK, $3 for some good sand paper)

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Originally Posted by SonicVQ
^^^ I agree.
In my case that nut/washer had not been touched since it left the factory. I suspect every dealer will simply replace the start, when it can be fixed for no cost. (OK, $3 for some good sand paper)
Ended up getting me a new one, looks like $410 minus $75 for a core return forthe part including a half hour of labor (they gave me a printout of how much the warranty work was). Somehow also related to the battery as they replaced that a month earlier and it fixed the problem for a bit. I wish I could remember better, was a year and a half ago now. At least it was free too
Old 11-19-2016, 01:58 PM
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Great info. Seems to be somewhat common. Nice to be prepared for something that's been diagnosed and easily fixed. If I'm ever going to be doing any work around the starter I'll be doing this just as a precaution
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^^ Great idea.
I think you might be able to clean the connection without removing he starter, but there is VERY little space even with the front left tire removed.
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2019 Update: The issue has not come back. It starts EVERY time
Old 08-24-2019, 10:56 AM
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awesome news , from an 11g37s, so good to know. how many miles on your car?
Old 08-24-2019, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by G37sPhoton
awesome news , from an 11g37s, so good to know. how many miles on your car?
Then 73,000 miles... Now 102,000 miles


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