Well - I said goodbye to my G...hello Q
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Malbec, I concur with your assessment of the Q50 with regard to handling. I've only driven the non-S model when I've had loaners from Grubbs but I think it's still an improvement IMHO over my car. The handling is much more flat and neutral than the G. The trans shift logic is definitely improved. I did notice in the non-S model that they've made the final drive ratio taller (numerically smaller) and that hurts off the line acceleration ever so slightly but is good for maybe a 1mpg bump on the highway. I'm not sure if that is the case for the S model though.
The car definitely feels wider. I'm a tall guy and have broad shoulders so I appreciate that aspect. It looks wider and lower as well which makes for a more aggressive stance. I drove an M37 a few years ago and it was too big. I felt dwarfed by M37 but the Q50 is the Goldilocks when it comes to interior space.
I think the UI on the infotainment system is a hot mess. As someone with years of experience with intuitive UI's, this is anything but intuitive. I suppose it takes some getting used to, but the NAV system in the G works just like you think it should in most cases with no need to consult the manual. With that being said, even the clunky UI would not prevent me from getting a Q. I can only hope for some revisions in '16.
Congrats on your new purchase and enjoy!
The car definitely feels wider. I'm a tall guy and have broad shoulders so I appreciate that aspect. It looks wider and lower as well which makes for a more aggressive stance. I drove an M37 a few years ago and it was too big. I felt dwarfed by M37 but the Q50 is the Goldilocks when it comes to interior space.
I think the UI on the infotainment system is a hot mess. As someone with years of experience with intuitive UI's, this is anything but intuitive. I suppose it takes some getting used to, but the NAV system in the G works just like you think it should in most cases with no need to consult the manual. With that being said, even the clunky UI would not prevent me from getting a Q. I can only hope for some revisions in '16.
Congrats on your new purchase and enjoy!
Actually - unsure if the final drive ratio changed - but the throttle mapping definitely changed. And the NAV (and overall UI) isn't bad IMO. But then again - I'm very used to clunky UI.
And YES - it feels wider. And it is...my garage is 'more full'! I am going to change my parking spot in the garage...before my wife in her RX gives me a tap!
If you use Grubbs - ask for Jeff Armstrong. He really went above and beyond to get me in the right car.
Thanks again!
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Namely, my nits are with the rear suspension, which at times feels weird and by that I mean not as taut, planted, and solid as I would like it to be and maybe even bouncy over undulating road surfaces. It's something that has developed more as the car has aged. After nearly 100k miles, that's par for the course I suppose, and it gets on my nerves when it crops up. I notice small details of how my car drives. Not saying others don't but framing a reference point for my opinion. I would characterize it as annoying in the way that the FI cat hiss is annoying to AroundTheG37, although the FI rasp under WOT does. I wouldn't say that I ever feel unsafe though or a lack of confidence though.
I haven't driven a Q50S (yet) but my impression when driving the non-S was that it felt pretty damn good for being a non-S. I didn't feel the bouncy-ness of the rear suspension. I didn't feel a whole lot of body lean that was immediately screaming for a prescription of Hotchkiss aftermarket sways. It felt planted and secure. FWIW, I have Koni Yellows on the G37 and they're adjusted slightly stiffer than stock with stock springs.
It's a very minor thing and may just be attributed to the car getting older. Maybe a better way to frame what I said is that the platform feels like a solid starting point for modding. I'll leave it at that because I don't want to jack Malbec's thread on my not important Q50 impressions.
It's a subjective opinion, everyone has one, and preferences may vary. What annoys you in a big way about the car (FI cats) doesn't annoy me as much and I suspect that's true of many aspects of the car across the continuum of the forum.
Thank you!
Actually - unsure if the final drive ratio changed - but the throttle mapping definitely changed. And the NAV (and overall UI) isn't bad IMO. But then again - I'm very used to clunky UI.
And YES - it feels wider. And it is...my garage is 'more full'! I am going to change my parking spot in the garage...before my wife in her RX gives me a tap!
If you use Grubbs - ask for Jeff Armstrong. He really went above and beyond to get me in the right car.
Thanks again!
Actually - unsure if the final drive ratio changed - but the throttle mapping definitely changed. And the NAV (and overall UI) isn't bad IMO. But then again - I'm very used to clunky UI.
And YES - it feels wider. And it is...my garage is 'more full'! I am going to change my parking spot in the garage...before my wife in her RX gives me a tap!
If you use Grubbs - ask for Jeff Armstrong. He really went above and beyond to get me in the right car.
Thanks again!
I will write his name down but I'm a ways away from doing anything. A year away at the earliest. I'm oping they will put the twin turbo 3.0 from the forthcoming Q60 in the Q50. That's my hold out for waiting.
Just an observation. It wasn't in anyway a dig on the G37S.
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And it's why Infiniti is putting the old S steering into the QS in 2016
Virtually ever instrumented test of the new QS has the old GS posting identical or slightly better handling numbers. It seems odd your opinion that the base Q is better than the GS, especially considering the all season vs summer tires. Maybe your car is just tired
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It's the same wheelbase and is otherwise dimensionally similar to the G37. It uses the same or existing (hybrid) motors and the same 7AT. There are some new/updated technologies as well--like electric steering.
I see it as more a 3rd generation G than an all new car.
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I was thinking about getting q50 but after test driving my friend Q50 I said no.
Basically same engine with dull steering and REALY messed up infotainment system!!! It's painful to use it.
But I really like exterior.
When Infiniti fixes infoteinmemt system, refine steering, and do some update to the engine, I will get it.
My fiend actually can't wait to get rid of his Q50.
Basically same engine with dull steering and REALY messed up infotainment system!!! It's painful to use it.
But I really like exterior.
When Infiniti fixes infoteinmemt system, refine steering, and do some update to the engine, I will get it.
My fiend actually can't wait to get rid of his Q50.
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+1
And it's why Infiniti is putting the old S steering into the QS in 2016
Virtually ever instrumented test of the new QS has the old GS posting identical or slightly better handling numbers. It seems odd your opinion that the base Q is better than the GS, especially considering the all season vs summer tires. Maybe your car is just tired
And it's why Infiniti is putting the old S steering into the QS in 2016
Virtually ever instrumented test of the new QS has the old GS posting identical or slightly better handling numbers. It seems odd your opinion that the base Q is better than the GS, especially considering the all season vs summer tires. Maybe your car is just tired
Again, I don't track my car or race so the all season vs summer tire difference is negligible at best. My car has almost 100k on the odometer so it may be tired. And cars drive very differently from when they're brand new vs having close to 100k miles.
There's nothing wrong with preferring the Q over the G but I realize that my opinion is an anathema to the forum, but it shouldn't be, because it's just one guy's preference. It doesn't mean the G is any less, because it's a great car.
The model lineup is expanding and I think the status of the Q40 as we know it becomes murky with the Q30/QX30 on the horizon.
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I just did
The Q40 and Q60 are, from what I can tell, IDENTICAL to the G37 sedan and coupe. The Q50 is different. It may only differ in 7 areas, but it's still different, and thus, a different car.
The Q40 and Q60 are simply name changes. The Q50 is actually a new car...even if it's 93% the same, it's not like 100% the same which is what we get with the Q40 and Q60. Those are just rebadged G37 models while the Q50 is not.
The Q40 and Q60 are, from what I can tell, IDENTICAL to the G37 sedan and coupe. The Q50 is different. It may only differ in 7 areas, but it's still different, and thus, a different car.
The Q40 and Q60 are simply name changes. The Q50 is actually a new car...even if it's 93% the same, it's not like 100% the same which is what we get with the Q40 and Q60. Those are just rebadged G37 models while the Q50 is not.
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Congrats on the Q50, you got the right one!
The plan was for the Q50 to completely replace the G37. But then everyone started selling Luxury cars in the $30ks and the Q50 MSRP went ^^^^. There was/is a real Q40 in development but in the mean time Infiniti decided to re brand it the G37 as a Q40 for 1 year, the 2015 year. Since its a bigger car than the A3/CLA and it has more standard power than the 320i, and its $$$ as hell for Inifiniti. To make matters even more confusing, they will come out with a Q40 that will probably have nothing to do with the G37 or the current Q40. I would bet money on a FWD/AWD platform rather than a FM/RWD.
For a time, the Q40 was slotted to be that EV car based on the leaf
In a lump sum, its a cluster!
The plan was for the Q50 to completely replace the G37. But then everyone started selling Luxury cars in the $30ks and the Q50 MSRP went ^^^^. There was/is a real Q40 in development but in the mean time Infiniti decided to re brand it the G37 as a Q40 for 1 year, the 2015 year. Since its a bigger car than the A3/CLA and it has more standard power than the 320i, and its $$$ as hell for Inifiniti. To make matters even more confusing, they will come out with a Q40 that will probably have nothing to do with the G37 or the current Q40. I would bet money on a FWD/AWD platform rather than a FM/RWD.
For a time, the Q40 was slotted to be that EV car based on the leaf
In a lump sum, its a cluster!
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It was already stated that they were rebadged. Pointing out that they were rebadged twice does not change anything.
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