Nuances I can't seem to get over....
11-16-2013 | 04:29 PM
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Wow this is a big discussion about auto light sensitivity and switch labels, lol. I leave mine on auto, don't care if they turn on and off under bridges or in the parking deck at work and could not care less how long they stay on after I lock and leave the car. I think its probably good that they turn on in the parking deck now that I think about it.
I may change the light off delay to something shorter though, so I guess I lied about the care less part, lol.
I may change the light off delay to something shorter though, so I guess I lied about the care less part, lol.
11-16-2013 | 05:53 PM
#17
I have my delay on 45 seconds because I live in an apartment and the walkway from my car to my door isn't very well lit so it helps light up the walkway for me. If I lived in a house with a garage I could see why people wouldn't want to use it because there wouldn't be much of a point to it.
11-16-2013 | 07:13 PM
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11-16-2013 | 07:17 PM
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I'm not talking about the pretentiousness of the Auto delay...I'll try to explain it since I'm a person that doesn't like using the auto function either (b/c I don't like them always turning on going short tunnels, my parking garage, etc.) I've even set the sensitivity to low.
"So, turn them on when you need them, and turn them off when you don't." That's what I'm talking about. I do turn them on and off myself..Auto just gets in the way..So I've been using Auto b/c of the this reason.. Let's say it's dark out...so you go turn the headlights to On, not Auto (b/c I don't like using Auto). So in order to get to twist the switch to On it must passes thru Auto..so the headlights always flicker on when they pass the Auto setting...then off again in Parking Lights..then back to on again in On. Then when you turn them off, the headlights turn off in Parking Lights then flicker back on briefly when it passes thru the Auto mode...so being a person that doesn't like to use Auto..I feel the times the headlights "flicker on" as you pass thru the Auto mode to go to the On mode isn't good for the bulbs...and also a nuance..Am I insane?
"So, turn them on when you need them, and turn them off when you don't." That's what I'm talking about. I do turn them on and off myself..Auto just gets in the way..So I've been using Auto b/c of the this reason.. Let's say it's dark out...so you go turn the headlights to On, not Auto (b/c I don't like using Auto). So in order to get to twist the switch to On it must passes thru Auto..so the headlights always flicker on when they pass the Auto setting...then off again in Parking Lights..then back to on again in On. Then when you turn them off, the headlights turn off in Parking Lights then flicker back on briefly when it passes thru the Auto mode...so being a person that doesn't like to use Auto..I feel the times the headlights "flicker on" as you pass thru the Auto mode to go to the On mode isn't good for the bulbs...and also a nuance..Am I insane?
Off > Parking lights > Auto > On OR Off > Parking lights > On > Auto... yeah that might be a bit annoying but to me it's not really an issue
11-16-2013 | 11:54 PM
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I am struggling to get comfortable with the switch positions as well. My daily commute includes a stretch of road that requires headlights to be on (even during the day) and a checkpoint that requires headlights to be off (parking lights only when dark), which requires overriding the Auto setting. I find myself needing to check the position of the switch which is difficult to see behind the steering wheel. The sequence in my 2009 Rav4 (Off - Parking - On - Auto) seems more intuitive, or perhaps I'm just more used to it...
As for the paddle shifters, I use them all the time to downshift just two or three gears (rather than four or five if the AT is left to its own devices!) when I mash the throttle to pass on the highway, or when preparing to accelerate through a turn, or to engine brake down a hill. It's hard to anticipate the revs with so many gears! I do like that the paddles are at fixed positions since the steering ratio is not like a race car where the driver's hands never leave the wheel...
As for the paddle shifters, I use them all the time to downshift just two or three gears (rather than four or five if the AT is left to its own devices!) when I mash the throttle to pass on the highway, or when preparing to accelerate through a turn, or to engine brake down a hill. It's hard to anticipate the revs with so many gears! I do like that the paddles are at fixed positions since the steering ratio is not like a race car where the driver's hands never leave the wheel...
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11-17-2013 | 12:19 AM
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I'm not talking about the pretentiousness of the Auto delay...I'll try to explain it since I'm a person that doesn't like using the auto function either (b/c I don't like them always turning on going short tunnels, my parking garage, etc.) I've even set the sensitivity to low.
"So, turn them on when you need them, and turn them off when you don't." That's what I'm talking about. I do turn them on and off myself..Auto just gets in the way..So I've been using Auto b/c of the this reason.. Let's say it's dark out...so you go turn the headlights to On, not Auto (b/c I don't like using Auto). So in order to get to twist the switch to On it must passes thru Auto..so the headlights always flicker on when they pass the Auto setting...then off again in Parking Lights..then back to on again in On. Then when you turn them off, the headlights turn off in Parking Lights then flicker back on briefly when it passes thru the Auto mode...so being a person that doesn't like to use Auto..I feel the times the headlights "flicker on" as you pass thru the Auto mode to go to the On mode isn't good for the bulbs...and also a nuance..Am I insane?
"So, turn them on when you need them, and turn them off when you don't." That's what I'm talking about. I do turn them on and off myself..Auto just gets in the way..So I've been using Auto b/c of the this reason.. Let's say it's dark out...so you go turn the headlights to On, not Auto (b/c I don't like using Auto). So in order to get to twist the switch to On it must passes thru Auto..so the headlights always flicker on when they pass the Auto setting...then off again in Parking Lights..then back to on again in On. Then when you turn them off, the headlights turn off in Parking Lights then flicker back on briefly when it passes thru the Auto mode...so being a person that doesn't like to use Auto..I feel the times the headlights "flicker on" as you pass thru the Auto mode to go to the On mode isn't good for the bulbs...and also a nuance..Am I insane?
If it's dark out when I use the car, I just use the auto mode. It's become second nature at this point.
If needed, I turn to auto and just move on.
On the Acuras the headlights turn on when the remote is used. I guess in the long run it doesn't matter, but as I say...to each their own.
11-17-2013 | 10:13 AM
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I agree with the waste of bandwidth. Auto manufactures can't win! LOL.
I leave mine on Auto. If you think about it, the placement of the switches does make sense.
OFF - AUTO - PARKING - ON.
If you think auto headlights are pretentious/etc. then having them in the off position at night means turning them to auto turns them on. Turn them to off and they're off.
If you lave them in AUTO and its daytime....AUTO = OFF. So if you want your headlights on in the day time you're essentially going OFF - PARKING - ON.
I don't think Nissan/Infiniti could design a better switch that understands the needs of 1,000,000 different minds!
Mike S.
I leave mine on Auto. If you think about it, the placement of the switches does make sense.
OFF - AUTO - PARKING - ON.
If you think auto headlights are pretentious/etc. then having them in the off position at night means turning them to auto turns them on. Turn them to off and they're off.
If you lave them in AUTO and its daytime....AUTO = OFF. So if you want your headlights on in the day time you're essentially going OFF - PARKING - ON.
I don't think Nissan/Infiniti could design a better switch that understands the needs of 1,000,000 different minds!
Mike S.
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11-18-2013 | 01:30 PM
#24
Yes, but you're still functional in that your OCD doesn't really do anything except lead you to create threads like this in order to vent. What you need to do is create an alternate activity to focus on during this event, in order to transfer the OCD behavior on to something more manageable. Try counting down from 3-2-1 every time you turn on the headlights. In that way, the repeatitive behavior is shifted into the routine rather than focusing on the activity.
Or I suppose you could pick your nose, too. Although in as far as behavioral conditioning goes, I wouldn't recommend that.
No, not really.
Or I suppose you could pick your nose, too. Although in as far as behavioral conditioning goes, I wouldn't recommend that.
No, not really.
11-18-2013 | 01:36 PM
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11-29-2013 | 12:09 AM
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I leave my lights on auto but despise that fact that I can not set my lights to come on when I use the remote. It also lights paths for me, lets me know if any wild animals are around, or just makes throwing the trash in the barrel easy.
I also do not like that the door locks can not be programmed to lock under certain rules.
My 04 Tahoe let me select these things, it shouldn't be missing from a brand that touts it's tech.
I also do not like that the door locks can not be programmed to lock under certain rules.
My 04 Tahoe let me select these things, it shouldn't be missing from a brand that touts it's tech.
11-29-2013 | 11:37 PM
#27
I agree that the positions on the headlight switch were not well thought out. As I think someone posted in another thread, they should be Auto-Off-Parking-On. That way when they are set to Off you can choose to either set them to Auto, or go the other way and turn them on manually. I generally just leave mine set to Auto.
I don't understand how lights staying on after the car is turned off could be seen as "pretentious".
I don't use the paddles very often myself, but I would think that if you were going to use them on a track that the fact they are mounted to the column would be better than having them mounted to the wheel. That way no matter how much the wheel is turned the paddles are always in the same spot so you don't really need to think about where they are and risk accidentally grabbing the wrong one.
I don't understand how lights staying on after the car is turned off could be seen as "pretentious".
I don't use the paddles very often myself, but I would think that if you were going to use them on a track that the fact they are mounted to the column would be better than having them mounted to the wheel. That way no matter how much the wheel is turned the paddles are always in the same spot so you don't really need to think about where they are and risk accidentally grabbing the wrong one.
12-01-2013 | 08:41 PM
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I agree that the positions on the headlight switch were not well thought out. As I think someone posted in another thread, they should be Auto-Off-Parking-On. That way when they are set to Off you can choose to either set them to Auto, or go the other way and turn them on manually. I generally just leave mine set to Auto.
I don't understand how lights staying on after the car is turned off could be seen as "pretentious".
I don't use the paddles very often myself, but I would think that if you were going to use them on a track that the fact they are mounted to the column would be better than having them mounted to the wheel. That way no matter how much the wheel is turned the paddles are always in the same spot so you don't really need to think about where they are and risk accidentally grabbing the wrong one.
I don't understand how lights staying on after the car is turned off could be seen as "pretentious".
I don't use the paddles very often myself, but I would think that if you were going to use them on a track that the fact they are mounted to the column would be better than having them mounted to the wheel. That way no matter how much the wheel is turned the paddles are always in the same spot so you don't really need to think about where they are and risk accidentally grabbing the wrong one.
12-03-2013 | 10:04 PM
#29
As far as the paddles go if one feels that having them on the column instead of the wheel is bad for performance it should be noted that nobody told Ferrari, Lamborghini etc. All of their paddles are mounted to the column so that left is always down and right is always up, I'm guessing they know something Lexus doesn't when it comes to performance.
OK let me clarify...IMO cars that are made to turn should have the paddles at the fingertips....That said, not all Ferraris are made to handle...
Also, again IMO, another thing that's backwards is the manumatic shifting of the shifter...pull back should be upshift...push forward should be downshift...Another thing I got from rally cars....It just makes sense. And this is for both straight line brutes and canyon carvers.
12-03-2013 | 10:33 PM
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Which ones aren't?
Agree with you on this point. Mazda is one of the few manufacturers that gets it right (my '05 Mazda 6 wagon was setup this way).
Also, again IMO, another thing that's backwards is the manumatic shifting of the shifter...pull back should be upshift...push forward should be downshift...Another thing I got from rally cars....It just makes sense. And this is for both straight line brutes and canyon carvers.