G37 to continue through 2015
08-15-2013, 11:12 PM
#16
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I'm not sure what to make of the G37 being continued for 2 more years but no matter how you slice it, that can't be good for Infiniti's faith in the Q50. Its almost like they are aiming for different markets with these cars. The Q50 for techheads who just want a comfortable competent ride and the G37 for people who want to have fun with their sports sedan. I just can't see the point of the Q60 coupe being released if it shares the same dynamics as the Q50 with little engine growl and numb handling and feel.
Does anybody think there's a chance that the G37 nameplate will live on after 2015 and Infiniti will introduce a new version thats geared toward enthusiasts? That would be fantastic because I have little desire to buy a Q50, just from reviews I know it won't be my cup of tea, I'm even afraid to test drive one because I don't want to feel first hand how they made this into their version of a Camry.
Does anybody think there's a chance that the G37 nameplate will live on after 2015 and Infiniti will introduce a new version thats geared toward enthusiasts? That would be fantastic because I have little desire to buy a Q50, just from reviews I know it won't be my cup of tea, I'm even afraid to test drive one because I don't want to feel first hand how they made this into their version of a Camry.
Having said that, there's little to no chance the G will live on beyond '15. Enthusiasts will have to wait for IPL versions of the Q60 and even the Q30, for some real performance. And get ready to pay for it- we may be left wishing for the days of "only" $50K IPL models...
08-16-2013, 11:00 AM
#17
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GM deserves it. It is beyond idiotic to abandon a Corvette design staple and then to add insult to injury they decide to copy the taillights of a much cheaper car, the Camaro. Its like Ford having the new Mustang mimic the back end of a Ford Focus and from the rumoured new design of the Mustang it looks like it will resemble the front end of every other cheaper Ford car with the Aston Martin wanna be grill.
I don't understand why car manufacturers these days insist that every model in their line up must follow the same design cues. Talk about lack of imagination. German carmakers are notorious for that but they have that cache that means their cars always sell well, other manufacturers don't have that luxury. If you're fortunate enough to find that winning design that attracts the market, you dont deep six it to make it look like every other car in your lineup. You evolve it. Infiniti and Chevy is making that mistake and looks like Ford is about to with the Stang.
I'm not sure what to make of the G37 being continued for 2 more years but no matter how you slice it, that can't be good for Infiniti's faith in the Q50. Its almost like they are aiming for different markets with these cars. The Q50 for techheads who just want a comfortable competent ride and the G37 for people who want to have fun with their sports sedan. I just can't see the point of the Q60 coupe being released if it shares the same dynamics as the Q50 with little engine growl and numb handling and feel.
Does anybody think there's a chance that the G37 nameplate will live on after 2015 and Infiniti will introduce a new version thats geared toward enthusiasts? That would be fantastic because I have little desire to buy a Q50, just from reviews I know it won't be my cup of tea, I'm even afraid to test drive one because I don't want to feel first hand how they made this into their version of a Camry.
I don't understand why car manufacturers these days insist that every model in their line up must follow the same design cues. Talk about lack of imagination. German carmakers are notorious for that but they have that cache that means their cars always sell well, other manufacturers don't have that luxury. If you're fortunate enough to find that winning design that attracts the market, you dont deep six it to make it look like every other car in your lineup. You evolve it. Infiniti and Chevy is making that mistake and looks like Ford is about to with the Stang.
I'm not sure what to make of the G37 being continued for 2 more years but no matter how you slice it, that can't be good for Infiniti's faith in the Q50. Its almost like they are aiming for different markets with these cars. The Q50 for techheads who just want a comfortable competent ride and the G37 for people who want to have fun with their sports sedan. I just can't see the point of the Q60 coupe being released if it shares the same dynamics as the Q50 with little engine growl and numb handling and feel.
Does anybody think there's a chance that the G37 nameplate will live on after 2015 and Infiniti will introduce a new version thats geared toward enthusiasts? That would be fantastic because I have little desire to buy a Q50, just from reviews I know it won't be my cup of tea, I'm even afraid to test drive one because I don't want to feel first hand how they made this into their version of a Camry.
I'm glad they did, and look forward to taking a test drive in the Buick Q50.(sic)
08-16-2013, 11:05 AM
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If the Q50 is just a smaller Q70, then they're intentionally cutting out a demographic of car buyers who prioritize a sport-tuned driving experience. As evidence, they're keeping the G37 around, but not with the RWD-Sport package, or even a proper transmission.
We didn't leave Infiniti. The brand is leaving us.
08-16-2013, 11:19 AM
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Fine, but do it with the Q70.
If the Q50 is just a smaller Q70, then they're intentionally cutting out a demographic of car buyers who prioritize a sport-tuned driving experience. As evidence, they're keeping the G37 around, but not with the RWD-Sport package, or even a proper transmission.
We didn't leave Infiniti. The brand is leaving us.
If the Q50 is just a smaller Q70, then they're intentionally cutting out a demographic of car buyers who prioritize a sport-tuned driving experience. As evidence, they're keeping the G37 around, but not with the RWD-Sport package, or even a proper transmission.
We didn't leave Infiniti. The brand is leaving us.
Infiniti might be giving up a handful of harcore enthusiasts for a broader market.
08-16-2013, 11:29 AM
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Unless the new Q60S 6MT is a whole lot of driving awesome.
Either way, having both seen and driven the Q50S, and coming away more convinced than otherwise that my lightly modded G37S is the better car, all this talk is just market awareness for me now.
08-16-2013, 12:16 PM
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Test drive both cars, meaning a G37 and 335 over your favorite pothole filled, asphalt cracked roads and you'll see whats what. Unless you actually do this it's tough to comprehend how much smoother the BMW suspension is, while providing great control and feedback. ie...more Camry like.
08-16-2013, 12:25 PM
#23
I'll agree that the BMW suspension is pretty smooth for what it is and can do. I describe that feeling as refined. Something the G37 lacks. I think, however, Infiniti needs to tone down the suspension and make it more refined, but at the same time, enhance the handling as I don't think it's that spectacular in the G.
08-16-2013, 03:47 PM
#24
Test drive both cars, meaning a G37 and 335 over your favorite pothole filled, asphalt cracked roads and you'll see whats what. Unless you actually do this it's tough to comprehend how much smoother the BMW suspension is, while providing great control and feedback. ie...more Camry like.
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08-16-2013, 04:57 PM
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Car manufacturers rely on customer loyalty for repeat sales. And if I were on the management team at Infiniti's marketing department, I'd task an intern to troll through this forum for a few months before and after the Q50 release, if only for some perspective. IMO, that's time well spent, for virtually zero cost.
Bet they aren't, though.
Bet they aren't, though.
08-16-2013, 05:40 PM
#26
Car manufacturers rely on customer loyalty for repeat sales. And if I were on the management team at Infiniti's marketing department, I'd task an intern to troll through this forum for a few months before and after the Q50 release, if only for some perspective. IMO, that's time well spent, for virtually zero cost.
Bet they aren't, though.
Bet they aren't, though.
08-16-2013, 09:36 PM
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Car manufacturers rely on customer loyalty for repeat sales. And if I were on the management team at Infiniti's marketing department, I'd task an intern to troll through this forum for a few months before and after the Q50 release, if only for some perspective. IMO, that's time well spent, for virtually zero cost.
Bet they aren't, though.
Bet they aren't, though.
I am sure the market dept. has done extensive demographic work, like BMWs marketing dept, which is a perfect example of a car that gets trashed all over the place and sales continue to grow. How much useful information that really represents John Q. Public do you think can be gleaned and extrapolated from forums such as these?
However, to your point, there are web aggregator businesses that can be hired for a price, that deliver information about how, when and where their company name is being used on the internet and in print. Do you not think all auto manufacturers are not scouring the web for this information?
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08-16-2013, 09:46 PM
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My point was about the sales strategy of farming brand loyalty. There's a suspicion here that INFINITI is expanding their market while sacrificing a measurable segment, but that it's a net gain.
However, to your point, there are web aggregator businesses that can be hired for a price, that deliver information about how, when and where their company name is being used on the internet and in print. Do you not think all auto manufacturers are not scouring the web for this information?
Every spy knows, that once your cover is blown, it's best to go all in...
08-16-2013, 09:52 PM
#29
Not so good, in a bloated and floaty Buick, at least you know you are not going to feel much when hitting a bump...sounds like the new suspension tune was a failure.
08-17-2013, 10:08 AM
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MT - "In our Sport model, impacts seem a bit too severe, while the highway rebound rates seemed a little floaty."
Not so good, in a bloated and floaty Buick, at least you know you are not going to feel much when hitting a bump...sounds like the new suspension tune was a failure.
Not so good, in a bloated and floaty Buick, at least you know you are not going to feel much when hitting a bump...sounds like the new suspension tune was a failure.
When I bring my car in for a regular service, I'll talk to my salesperson about a test drive and see what the car will do on crappy roads. I'll be able to compare it to the G.