Q50 Review
07-28-2013, 09:33 AM
#76
Although out of the "G" nation (now have a 2013 M37X), look at Automobile Magazine's recent First Drive Review....little acclaim noted here. It may have too much Techie stuff including the highly touted Steering By Wire feature. From that report, and the fact the new M is very pleasing with more room and comfort (hey I'm 62 years old now), and I made a terrific deal on m the new lease, I'm very content with my decision.
Regards to the G Nation....
Regards to the G Nation....
Mostly curious because Im thinking there may be some good deals on the M once the Q70 is about to release. Might make a good replacement for the wifes TL!
there are plenty of pics in this thread. what's the use anyways? we all know what it looks like.
07-28-2013, 10:25 PM
#80
I see another M failure. The previous gen M was a hit - the press liked it and it sold well. Then comes the current generation M - a big departure from the previous car - and it's done poorly in the press and in sales. The Q50 is even a bigger departure from the very successful G37 - they're going after the Lexus GS crowd save that Infiniti will never be able to match Lexus levels of refinement. I predict the Q50 will do poorly (or at least not as good as the G), at least in its initial years. Perhaps they'll add a legit Audi S/M-B AMG/BMW M/Lexus -F version of the Q50 but until then, this car loses most of the G37 customer base.
Heres a write up from someone who had an extensive test drive (note he has a GT-R): Infiniti Q50 Technical & Operational Blog: Pre-Release Review of the Q50 AWD Sport Hybrid
It's extremely funny how everyone here is declaring the car a failure and have YET to drive it or see it.
The M has been a failure because it was priced above what it should have been because of an unfavorable dollar-to-yen exchange rate and low on features, relatively speaking, for its class. They completely failed at marketing the car and the non-sport model is somewhat puffy, although its pretty stunning in Sport.
07-29-2013, 07:50 AM
#81
What are you talking about?!? The Q50 still competes with the IS, 3-Series, A4, etc. Even still, from what I have heard the car is much more refined compared to the current G.
Heres a write up from someone who had an extensive test drive (note he has a GT-R): Infiniti Q50 Technical & Operational Blog: Pre-Release Review of the Q50 AWD Sport Hybrid
It's extremely funny how everyone here is declaring the car a failure and have YET to drive it or see it.
The M has been a failure because it was priced above what it should have been because of an unfavorable dollar-to-yen exchange rate and low on features, relatively speaking, for its class. They completely failed at marketing the car and the non-sport model is somewhat puffy, although its pretty stunning in Sport.
Heres a write up from someone who had an extensive test drive (note he has a GT-R): Infiniti Q50 Technical & Operational Blog: Pre-Release Review of the Q50 AWD Sport Hybrid
It's extremely funny how everyone here is declaring the car a failure and have YET to drive it or see it.
The M has been a failure because it was priced above what it should have been because of an unfavorable dollar-to-yen exchange rate and low on features, relatively speaking, for its class. They completely failed at marketing the car and the non-sport model is somewhat puffy, although its pretty stunning in Sport.
Even the first comment on the article was more performance oriented than the review..."how was the steering by wire, did it feel numb?" If you read all of the car mag first drive reviews, they've all tossed in a complaint or two about the steer by wire. THOSE are real performance questions and seems to be (at least by all the reviews that are out there) where the Q might fail vs the G.
Is the Q more refined? Sure, but thats not necessarily what everyone (especially on this forum) wanted in the "G" replacement.
I think it might make a nice car for my wife, since she is more refined than I
but Im debating holding out for a deal on an M instead.
07-29-2013, 01:07 PM
#84
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What are you talking about?!? The Q50 still competes with the IS, 3-Series, A4, etc. Even still, from what I have heard the car is much more refined compared to the current G.
Heres a write up from someone who had an extensive test drive (note he has a GT-R): Infiniti Q50 Technical & Operational Blog: Pre-Release Review of the Q50 AWD Sport Hybrid
It's extremely funny how everyone here is declaring the car a failure and have YET to drive it or see it.
The M has been a failure because it was priced above what it should have been because of an unfavorable dollar-to-yen exchange rate and low on features, relatively speaking, for its class. They completely failed at marketing the car and the non-sport model is somewhat puffy, although its pretty stunning in Sport.
Heres a write up from someone who had an extensive test drive (note he has a GT-R): Infiniti Q50 Technical & Operational Blog: Pre-Release Review of the Q50 AWD Sport Hybrid
It's extremely funny how everyone here is declaring the car a failure and have YET to drive it or see it.
The M has been a failure because it was priced above what it should have been because of an unfavorable dollar-to-yen exchange rate and low on features, relatively speaking, for its class. They completely failed at marketing the car and the non-sport model is somewhat puffy, although its pretty stunning in Sport.
07-29-2013, 03:00 PM
#86
What are you talking about?!? The Q50 still competes with the IS, 3-Series, A4, etc. Even still, from what I have heard the car is much more refined compared to the current G.
Heres a write up from someone who had an extensive test drive (note he has a GT-R): Infiniti Q50 Technical & Operational Blog: Pre-Release Review of the Q50 AWD Sport Hybrid
It's extremely funny how everyone here is declaring the car a failure and have YET to drive it or see it.
The M has been a failure because it was priced above what it should have been because of an unfavorable dollar-to-yen exchange rate and low on features, relatively speaking, for its class. They completely failed at marketing the car and the non-sport model is somewhat puffy, although its pretty stunning in Sport.
Heres a write up from someone who had an extensive test drive (note he has a GT-R): Infiniti Q50 Technical & Operational Blog: Pre-Release Review of the Q50 AWD Sport Hybrid
It's extremely funny how everyone here is declaring the car a failure and have YET to drive it or see it.
The M has been a failure because it was priced above what it should have been because of an unfavorable dollar-to-yen exchange rate and low on features, relatively speaking, for its class. They completely failed at marketing the car and the non-sport model is somewhat puffy, although its pretty stunning in Sport.
The M failed (or, didn't do nearly as well as its predecessor) because it was confused on what buyer to go after - it DEFINITELY wasn't for the then-current M customer base.
07-29-2013, 09:21 PM
#87
What it "competes" with is meh - it is bigger, softer, "more refined" with little advancement in driving dynamics and zero advancement in power train. They numbed it to go after the GS/ES crowd.
The M failed (or, didn't do nearly as well as its predecessor) because it was confused on what buyer to go after - it DEFINITELY wasn't for the then-current M customer base.
The M failed (or, didn't do nearly as well as its predecessor) because it was confused on what buyer to go after - it DEFINITELY wasn't for the then-current M customer base.
Really, ES? I'm assuming you're basing your statements on the Edmunds review of a non-sport model with crappy tires. One of the main complaints the G used to get in comparisons was that it was less refined than the competition and it looks like Infiniti has addressed that, but that does not mean they "softened" the car. Lets see what a Sport does before it declared an ES competitor....
The M failed for many reason, I'll leave that at that. The price increase was probably one of the biggest contributors. But I would bet it will see a major refresh next year and will have a significant increase in feature content with no increase in pricing. They now have room to play since the Yen is weakening which is why cars like the EX and 370Z have seen price reductions of up to $3k.
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