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Old 11-05-2012, 09:30 AM
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Hyundai/Kia get burned for MPG claims. What about Infiniti (and everyone else)?

So Hyundai\Kia get nailed for overstating MPG claims and now are reimbursuing customers worldwide for the difference (and a 15% premium on top of that) they claim and what customers are actually getting with an annual debit card for the life of the car. So if the mileage is off by 1 MPG and a person drives 15k a year it works out to close to $100 a year including the premium, assuming it's gonna be off by at least several MPG then that's few hundred dollars per year and a pretty damn good apology.

I have yet to own a car where it comes close to what the stated MPG are and my G37 is pretty bad in that regard unless my mileage calculator is way off. I can't believe this won't open a can of worms where they will end up investigating every manufacturer. Hopefully debit cards are coming our way and it should quite hefty based on the mileage I'm getting with this car.
Old 11-05-2012, 10:17 AM
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If I recall, my window sticker, EPA claim, was about 17/26. Both numbers which I can easily attain if I don't drive it like I stole it.
Edit, maybe it was 19/27.

Good for Hyundai/Kia though!

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I only check my highway fuel mileage, since city mileage will be different from driver to driver and city to city.
Last Sunday I came back from a 2,800 mile round trip from SW FL to NY.
I got 28.8 on the way up and 29.4 on the return trip. I have a good radar detector and keep the car right at 80 mph, when not in a lot slower zones when going through some of the cities.
I've had my 2010 sedan auto for a little over 2 1/2 years and use it primarily for highway trips, after putting on 27,000 miles I am still pleased with the gas mileage, although that wasn't one of the reasons I chose this model.

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Old 11-05-2012, 10:56 AM
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Where's the link to this story? Were they mandated to do this by a lawsuit or doing it voluntarily? It sounds voluntary (which is amazing) because there's no one entity that could enforce this worldwide, it would be up to each country where they are sold. EPA mileage estimates are just that - estimates - and are often somewhat optimistic and always have been. Manufacturers were mandated to use a different methodology for figuring this since a few years back and it has gotten much closer to actual real world numbers.

Most people driving reasonably can achieve the EPA estimated mileage highway or pretty close to it in this car. City mileage is a complete crapshoot because there are far too many factors involved for it to be consistent from one driver to the next and how and where you drive has everything to do with it.
Old 11-05-2012, 11:20 AM
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The biggest reason Hyundai did this was because they wanted to hit 40MPG for marketing purposes. 40 40 40 40 40. 37 doesn't look nearly as good as 40.
Old 11-05-2012, 11:32 AM
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I don't think we would have a claim against Infiniti. Kia and Hyundai claim that their cars will achieve a certain mpg, Infiniti has never really been about achieving mpg like Kia and Hyundai, but more of a sport and luxury cross.
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that's a big PR move by Kia/Hyundai, good on them.

i've had no issues with my G37 fuel economy. i knew what i was getting into as a former G35 owner, and the 37 does better then the 35 for sure.

average of 21mpg on my work commute (100% city), and 28+ on highways trips. range of 350+miles city, 450+ highway. i can live with that when you consider the size and performance potential of the 6MT sedan.
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I think it is brilliant PR move since both companies have worked tirelessly to build up their reputation and trust among consumers on a global scale with the quality of their vehicles. Rather than take a couple steps backwards, it seems that they are taking accountability and moving forward as an organization.
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My MPG is so inconsistent lol.. Usually stays aroung 19mpg... depends on if I paddle shift or leave it in D... and whether I'm on streets or the freeway.
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If they took the crappy ethanol out of our gas completely, mpg could instantly improve by 2-3.
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Originally Posted by canucklehead
average of 21mpg on my work commute (100% city), and 28+ on highways trips. range of 350+miles city, 450+ highway. i can live with that when you consider the size and performance potential of the 6MT sedan.
It is amazing that you have that kind of highway mileage, I saw the 6MT got much lower mpg than 7AT.
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^ not really that amazing. lots of other guys are getting the same. even my old g35 was capable of 29-30mpg on the highway.
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^ I get the same.
It's not amazing. It's normal. What's even better is if we convert to our own MPG then it's more like 33-34MPG

I often wonder what I would get for HWY MPG's if I drove the speed limit. I will continue to wonder.
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Hyundai and Kia admitted to internal mistakes that resulted in the inflated mileage claims. They went through the same test protocols prescribed by the EPA that all manufacturers do, but somehow ended up publishing numbers that were higher than what their testing actually produced. So unless Infiniti or any other manufacturer made similar "mistakes", I wouldn't expect to see rebates headed the customer's way. I'm OK with the mileage I have seen so far and very pleased with the performance that is available when I want to use it.
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Originally Posted by rpm&my_G35
^ I get the same.
It's not amazing. It's normal. What's even better is if we convert to our own MPG then it's more like 33-34MPG

I often wonder what I would get for HWY MPG's if I drove the speed limit. I will continue to wonder.
Yes it is normal

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I get better MPG with my G37 than I got with my G35

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