2014 Sedan
#1366
well true. I don't think I'd be interested in buying one, in fact I couldn't imagine it being made for any other reason than simply for novelty
#1367
I was super hyped about this car until I saw that it's just going to use the same piece of junk 7AT transmission that is in my current G37. I plan on ditching the G37 as soon as I break even on the loan, and don't have any negative equity. And TBH, that decision comes 100% because Infiniti can't get the programming right. My old car was dual clutch, and my wife's '12 crap Jetta is a DSG. The DSG is a million times more responsive than the 7AT. I love the rest of the car, but the 7AT tranny sucks. When I first read "dual clutch" in the first Q50 article, I was intrigued, and convinced myself that I would upgrade even sooner. Now knowing that it's just a 7AT, Infiniti can count me out as a future customer. Even with the latest software updates, it's still literally retarded. I'd go with a manual, but this is my nice car. I already have 3 other manual transmission vehicles. I want an auto that I can shift on my own, but put it in drive when I want to be lazy.
However, I do love the rest of the Q50 so far. It looks nice!
However, I do love the rest of the Q50 so far. It looks nice!
#1368
Registered Member
Did anyone take a look at the Canada website? it shows the two powertrains to choose from. One is the 3.5L Hybrid and the other isn't the 3.7, its a 2.2L Turbocharged 4 cyl Diesel. Interesting stuff..
Edit: apparently the turbo is only 170BHP.. wonder what the torque will be on that guy.
Edit: apparently the turbo is only 170BHP.. wonder what the torque will be on that guy.
Last edited by VQHRLover; 02-16-2013 at 07:18 PM.
#1369
Registered Member
Did anyone take a look at the Canada website? it shows the two powertrains to choose from. One is the 3.5L Hybrid and the other isn't the 3.7, its a 2.2L Turbocharged 4 cyl Diesel. Interesting stuff..
Edit: apparently the turbo is only 170BHP.. wonder what the torque will be on that guy.
Edit: apparently the turbo is only 170BHP.. wonder what the torque will be on that guy.
I think we have Euro info on the Canadian site.
Last edited by rpm&my_G35; 02-16-2013 at 10:38 PM.
#1370
I'm done with Infiniti simply due to a lack of a manual transmission. We have 2 Infiniti's in my family. My wife has a 2010 EX35 and drive a 2010 G37S 6MT sedan. Up until a few weeks ago I was a big fan of Infiniti. I considered them a great alternative to BMW as they seemed to be geared to performance with a great competitive price point. However, once they announced the Q50 without a manual transmission I immediately headed over to the German's.
My 2010 G37S lease is up in April and I just ordered myself a new 2013 335is coupe instead. I had planned on extending the lease a few months for the Q50 but without a manual I haven't considered the car at all. The lease deals at BMW are exceptional (60k car with very high residuals, pretty good money factors, excellent deals below invoice even before $1500 rebates). I've always wanted a 3 series... for almost a couple decades now. Able to do it for a few bucks more a month than my G37 and I think I'm getting one of the last great 3 series as they seem to be getting softer, larger and dull in their responses and steering.
Too bad as I really do enjoy my G37S. I considered the Audi S4/S5 as well but their lease deals are not nearly as attractive and the cars lacked the raw, visceral feel of the 335is. Instead of having an intoxicating engine/exhaust note they added a SPEAKER to the firewall of the car to simulate an exciting aural experience. Lame. But not as lame as not offering a 6MT!
As for my wife's EX35 -- it's getting replaced with a new MDX as we need more space for our family.
Infiniti really disappointed and surprised me with this one. I figured 6MT was a given on a brand which is based upon "inspired performance." They have simply given this market away to the German's. Amazing. Lost a customer in their 30s with (hopefully) many buying years ahead.
My 2010 G37S lease is up in April and I just ordered myself a new 2013 335is coupe instead. I had planned on extending the lease a few months for the Q50 but without a manual I haven't considered the car at all. The lease deals at BMW are exceptional (60k car with very high residuals, pretty good money factors, excellent deals below invoice even before $1500 rebates). I've always wanted a 3 series... for almost a couple decades now. Able to do it for a few bucks more a month than my G37 and I think I'm getting one of the last great 3 series as they seem to be getting softer, larger and dull in their responses and steering.
Too bad as I really do enjoy my G37S. I considered the Audi S4/S5 as well but their lease deals are not nearly as attractive and the cars lacked the raw, visceral feel of the 335is. Instead of having an intoxicating engine/exhaust note they added a SPEAKER to the firewall of the car to simulate an exciting aural experience. Lame. But not as lame as not offering a 6MT!
As for my wife's EX35 -- it's getting replaced with a new MDX as we need more space for our family.
Infiniti really disappointed and surprised me with this one. I figured 6MT was a given on a brand which is based upon "inspired performance." They have simply given this market away to the German's. Amazing. Lost a customer in their 30s with (hopefully) many buying years ahead.
#1371
Good luck with BMW, wish you like the recall they just did for battery cable problem that stall the car. Great if you are in the middle of the street when this happens. Another plus for BMW after the dreaded fuel pump that kills engine in the middle of a passing on highway, definitely adrenaline pumping excitement.
#1372
A 1/4 mile @ a time
iTrader: (4)
Too bad as I really do enjoy my G37S. I considered the Audi S4/S5 as well but their lease deals are not nearly as attractive and the cars lacked the raw, visceral feel of the 335is. Instead of having an intoxicating engine/exhaust note they added a SPEAKER to the firewall of the car to simulate an exciting aural experience. Lame. But not as lame as not offering a 6MT!
#1374
They stated it will not be offered at release however mark my words the 6mt will be back in the sedan soon enough. Anyone that is willing to jump ship before the car is even released/tested baffles me. Have fun with which ever company you choose to move on to.
Last edited by mj_39; 02-17-2013 at 12:55 AM.
#1375
Unfortunately, manual is about individual preference other than performance nowadays, in most cases, slower than auto. People done with Ferrari only because they cannot afford one.
Good luck with BMW, wish you like the recall they just did for battery cable problem that stall the car. Great if you are in the middle of the street when this happens. Another plus for BMW after the dreaded fuel pump that kills engine in the middle of a passing on highway, definitely adrenaline pumping excitement.
Good luck with BMW, wish you like the recall they just did for battery cable problem that stall the car. Great if you are in the middle of the street when this happens. Another plus for BMW after the dreaded fuel pump that kills engine in the middle of a passing on highway, definitely adrenaline pumping excitement.
As for the BMW issues, the HPFP issues are widely known and it is shameful that it took BMW awhile to properly address the issue. The battery recall you mentioned doesn't pertain to my 335is. It's the last model year I'm hoping they have addressed most of the major issues and annoyances by this point.
Regardless, a manual car is a must for me. That is first and foremost the most important factor and I simply will not consider a car with an automatic. DCT or not. Sure, a DCT or even 6-7 speed traditional automatic geared right will "beat" a manual at the track or stop lights. But that is not the point. I'm looking for perceived performance and to me, rowing my own gears in harmony with a third pedal is much more performance inspiring than mashing my foot into a gas pedal or playing with some "paddle shifters." I think your profile said an X so perhaps you can't relate as you don't feel the same way.
Yeah, the market is small and is shrinking each year for 6MT but it's a large part of the enthusiast demographic and for Infiniti to dismiss it is a poor decision, IMO.
As for comments about "trust me they will offer it..." I'm not holding my breath. My lease it up, I need to make a move. Even if they do offer it, it may not be for a year or two down the road and may not even be with a V6. Perhaps a turbo'd 4 - no thanks. Sure, maybe they'll come out with an IPL sedan in stick but again, not holding my breath and I'm looking to get into a car in the next few months.
#1377
I cant wait for march............
#1379
Registered User
Unfortunately, manual is about individual preference other than performance nowadays, in most cases, slower than auto. People done with Ferrari only because they cannot afford one.
Good luck with BMW, wish you like the recall they just did for battery cable problem that stall the car. Great if you are in the middle of the street when this happens. Another plus for BMW after the dreaded fuel pump that kills engine in the middle of a passing on highway, definitely adrenaline pumping excitement.
Good luck with BMW, wish you like the recall they just did for battery cable problem that stall the car. Great if you are in the middle of the street when this happens. Another plus for BMW after the dreaded fuel pump that kills engine in the middle of a passing on highway, definitely adrenaline pumping excitement.