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Old 01-15-2013, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by visualguy
I don't think they changed the VQ37VHR in any significant way - they would have announced something if there was any improvement there.

That's really the main thing that sucks about it - you get the same fuel consumption as a 3-litre forced-induction 6-cyl engine (or worse if you compare to the BMW N55), but without the awesome low-end torque. The VQ also runs less smoothly than the N55 or the Audi 3.0 TFSI. It's impressive for an NA engine without direct injection, but technology has moved on!
Well, what I believe truly superior technology is in the Hybrid. You get reliability, instant response of a NA, low end torque of a turbo, low speed fuel econ and quietness of an electric motor. Turbo and DI are just shortcut to meet government regulation IMO, those have been around for a long time not recent innovations. The Q50 in this case is one step further in the right direction. If it could match the performance of a DI turbo, Infiniti got a winner in their hands. The M35h was an impressive hybrid performance minded car, can't wait to see how well the Q50h performs.
Old 01-15-2013, 05:41 PM
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LIGERS suck! A TIGLON would so kick it's AZZ! Plus it is more rare so it has greater magical powers.
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Agreed. In fact, I think using the word "Hybrid" is a mistake. They need to come up with another label that doesn't have all the baggage that Hybrid has.

Augmented, maybe. Or Torque-Assisted.

OK, those are dumb, But anything else, really.
This is a good point. The oil and gas industry has spent millions of dollars misleading the public on hybrid technology. Their goal was to tarnish the hybrid name, since this technology leads to much lower consumption of their product.

Internal combustion engine - very inefficient, 50% of power lost to heat. Plus, much lower power output at low revs.

Battery power - 100% torque at 0 rpms.

Combine the two, you have a much more efficient combined system. Add in regenerative braking and it boost the efficiency further.

BTW, the next Acura NSX will also be another hybrid supercar that will be hitting the market soon

Acura NSX Concept First Look - 2012 Detroit Auto Show - Motor Trend

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Old 01-15-2013, 05:50 PM
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OMG!! gt_performah, Infiniti should have thanked you for sorting the entire messes out.

Originally Posted by gt_performah
I don't really see much of a resemblence between the two except the flat front, but remember this . . . .



was an offspring of this . . .



Which was inspired by this.



And let's just clear some things up for people with a short term memory. This . . .



was not inspired by this . . .



it was inspired by this . . .



which was also the inspiration for this . . .



AND this . . .



and I know I'm in the minority but I still believe this . . .



propelled Infiniti in the design direction that ultimately became this . . .



and even though Lexus copyrighted this . . .



It was actually taken from this . . .



and while im brushing shoulders with our Japanese counterpart . . .

this would not have became this . . .



without a little inspiration from the success of this . . .



because before that it was only this . . .



and the only thing people actually remembered about that car was this:



My point?

This . . .


and this . . .



not to mention this:



and even this . . .



got its influence from this . . .



and this . . . .





has got to inspire a lot of this . . .

Old 01-15-2013, 07:09 PM
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Lots of info at the Infiniti site.
All-New 2014 Infiniti Q50 Sedan | Infiniti USA
Old 01-15-2013, 08:10 PM
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Pretty cool build in "tablet", tweet while driving, huh? Companies start turning cars into disposable gadgets now, good luck keep it relevant in a couple of years. Looks sweet for lease only...
Old 01-15-2013, 08:14 PM
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I have a feeling Infiniti will be getting a lot of complaints about that touchscreen, similar to what Ford has been getting on the Explorer.
Old 01-15-2013, 08:16 PM
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@00max00 car virtual diarama...best post ever...bookmarked.
Old 01-15-2013, 09:23 PM
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i think most people as bb said are underestimating the hybrids function. Have you driven an m hybrid? I have had many people spin it out because they don't understand. It is a performance hybrid. Did you know the m35h is the second fastest car in the lineup? The original testing for the Guinness book of world records recorded a 0-60 at 4.7 seconds. Now imagine this in a g body? 455 torque is going to be beastly. Also don't forget the m35h beat out the Porsche panamera hybrid. I for one (never thought i would say this in my life) am excited for the hybrid model.

Go drive the m35h and then imagine.
Old 01-15-2013, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by kaoticdemize
i think most people as bb said are underestimating the hybrids function. Have you driven an m hybrid? I have had many people spin it out because they don't understand. It is a performance hybrid. Did you know the m35h is the second fastest car in the lineup? The original testing for the Guinness book of world records recorded a 0-60 at 4.7 seconds. Now imagine this in a g body? 455 torque is going to be beastly. Also don't forget the m35h beat out the Porsche panamera hybrid. I for one (never thought i would say this in my life) am excited for the hybrid model.

Go drive the m35h and then imagine.
The panamera s hybrid runs about 5.8 0-60 vs panamera s 5.1 or the 4s at 4.7
Old 01-15-2013, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gt_performah
I don't really see much of a resemblence between the two except the flat front, but remember this . . . .



was an offspring of this . . .



Which was inspired by this.



And let's just clear some things up for people with a short term memory. This . . .



was not inspired by this . . .



it was inspired by this . . .



which was also the inspiration for this . . .



AND this . . .



and I know I'm in the minority but I still believe this . . .



propelled Infiniti in the design direction that ultimately became this . . .



and even though Lexus copyrighted this . . .



It was actually taken from this . . .



and while im brushing shoulders with our Japanese counterpart . . .

this would not have became this . . .



without a little inspiration from the success of this . . .



because before that it was only this . . .



and the only thing people actually remembered about that car was this:



My point?

This . . .


and this . . .



not to mention this:



and even this . . .



got its influence from this . . .



and this . . . .





has got to inspire a lot of this . . .

This the best post i've ever seen on this site. This man deserves a medal! Mods should sticky or save this post on the site somewhere
Old 01-15-2013, 11:10 PM
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This the best post i've ever seen on this site. This man deserves a medal! Mods should sticky or save this post on the site somewhere
+++++1 I've gone back to read that post several times since yesterday and was thoroughly amused each time.
Old 01-15-2013, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 00Max00
Well, what I believe truly superior technology is in the Hybrid. You get reliability, instant response of a NA, low end torque of a turbo, low speed fuel econ and quietness of an electric motor. Turbo and DI are just shortcut to meet government regulation IMO, those have been around for a long time not recent innovations. The Q50 in this case is one step further in the right direction. If it could match the performance of a DI turbo, Infiniti got a winner in their hands. The M35h was an impressive hybrid performance minded car, can't wait to see how well the Q50h performs.
I don't see how reliability can be anything but worse with all the extra components and complexity of the hybrid. Then you have those extra 275 lbs to lug around which naturally hurts the handling of the car. Not to mention the significant extra cost...
Old 01-16-2013, 12:05 AM
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Did anybody notice an HD radio is standard? What is an HD radio?
Old 01-16-2013, 12:15 AM
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guess no more classic Infiniti Clock ?



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