I'm getting rid of the G37x, not sure which I want.
#16
Look, I don't know your situation but a lot of the "ifs and buts" you have are a bit silly. If you are going to spend $20k in mods why do you even care about depreciation of the car? Spending that much in mods is going to depreciate it way further. Also I can't fathom what you're doing with $20k in mods..I'm guessing mostly show/appearance type stuff since you are not interested in performance?
As far as car recommendations..there's other coupes out there like the Mercedes SL/CL etc. and what about the GTR? You could also look at a used M6 or a new 6-series with the twin turbo (well just forgot you said no boost).
Also if are going to spend $20k on mods why is reliability even a factor? Sorry I'm just seeing a bunch of conflicting priorities/information so not really sure what you're after here..
As far as car recommendations..there's other coupes out there like the Mercedes SL/CL etc. and what about the GTR? You could also look at a used M6 or a new 6-series with the twin turbo (well just forgot you said no boost).
Also if are going to spend $20k on mods why is reliability even a factor? Sorry I'm just seeing a bunch of conflicting priorities/information so not really sure what you're after here..
And reliability matters on THE MOTOR. Buying a used car you take the chance that the person who had it before you didn't take care of it or overrevved the **** out it. The M3 is a high revving motor and most owners track their cars, which is another thing that comes to mind why reliability could be an issue.
Also, who sells a car with aftermarket parts on it? You return it back to stock before you get rid of it. You should always anticipate losing 50% of what you spent on a part when getting rid of the car.
#17
Before you flame me I have a 2011 M3 ZCP Coupe and an 08 g35 daily..
Here's what I don't understand about your reasoning, you say you want to spend 20k on mods but purchase a PREOWNED m3? That within itself sounds insane, you're talking big game about how much money you spend on mods but wouldn't you rather put that 20k into getting a NEW m3, at least that 20k would be financed over 60 mo's as opposed to paying 20k for mods--especially if you can get approved at 0.9%.
And who do you think you are putting people down for spending less money on mods? That type of stuff is all relevant to people's financial fortune. If people can't afford KW Clubsports and opt for some H&R coilovers instead, that doesn't mean that they dont like to DRIVE their car, as you say--just that they don't want to blow 4.5k on coilovers. What's the big deal with that? And don't hate on knockoff parts, especially since you have one on your car. Meisterschaft is made by GT Haus, formerly Eisenhaus--which is a complete knockoff of Eisenmann.
Yes you can easily spend 20k on mods, that's the only thing I agree with. Is it a logical and mature decision? IMO hell no. not unless you have money flowing out of your a-hole.
and most m3 owners do NOT typically track their cars, that's ridiculous. In socal I see at least 4-5x e90/2 m3's a day. They're not usually enthusiasts driving, believe it or not it's mostly trophy wives..
Here's what I don't understand about your reasoning, you say you want to spend 20k on mods but purchase a PREOWNED m3? That within itself sounds insane, you're talking big game about how much money you spend on mods but wouldn't you rather put that 20k into getting a NEW m3, at least that 20k would be financed over 60 mo's as opposed to paying 20k for mods--especially if you can get approved at 0.9%.
And who do you think you are putting people down for spending less money on mods? That type of stuff is all relevant to people's financial fortune. If people can't afford KW Clubsports and opt for some H&R coilovers instead, that doesn't mean that they dont like to DRIVE their car, as you say--just that they don't want to blow 4.5k on coilovers. What's the big deal with that? And don't hate on knockoff parts, especially since you have one on your car. Meisterschaft is made by GT Haus, formerly Eisenhaus--which is a complete knockoff of Eisenmann.
Yes you can easily spend 20k on mods, that's the only thing I agree with. Is it a logical and mature decision? IMO hell no. not unless you have money flowing out of your a-hole.
and most m3 owners do NOT typically track their cars, that's ridiculous. In socal I see at least 4-5x e90/2 m3's a day. They're not usually enthusiasts driving, believe it or not it's mostly trophy wives..
Last edited by Freshness; 05-15-2012 at 01:57 AM.
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Just do your own thing...
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Don't listen, I presonally like the G better than the M3, but if you are going to modify the vehicle it seems to me the M3 would be a better choice. They are more mod friendly but I like the looks of the G better. It seems you are getting reamed for the oposite of what I normally do. If you want to put 20k into a car do it! This is for you, not some clown. FYI I dropped 20k into my Jeep pretty fast and the mods are far cheaper.
#23
In fact, the engine is so well known the problem is listed on it's page in wikipedia...BMW N54 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In December of 2010, supposedly BMW finally put out a version of the fuel pump that would not fail prematurely and issued a recall for cars with that engine having the older fuel pumps...I would personally look into the 335 still and make sure they have updated the fuel pump to the right one...
I drove a modified audi a4 1.8t to 70k miles on the original turbo, upgraded it and ran another 100k miles on an aftermarket ecu to go with the turbo with no issues at all - turbo can be pretty reliable if it's done right. Even if I had to replace the turbo every 100k miles, it was only like $600 for the turbo itself. If an M3 is in the running, I would venture to bet the 335 maintenance costs will not exceed that of an M3.
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I notice you talk a lot about depreciation and "eating" the loss.
In my mind, a car is NOT an investment. A house is an investment. A car is a necessary tool.
If you have a daily driver then that makes it more of a 'pleasure craft' and that's definitely not an investment. My advice to you is this - if you can't afford the M3 without worrying about eating the depreciation... get the G37S.
In my mind, a car is NOT an investment. A house is an investment. A car is a necessary tool.
If you have a daily driver then that makes it more of a 'pleasure craft' and that's definitely not an investment. My advice to you is this - if you can't afford the M3 without worrying about eating the depreciation... get the G37S.
#26
I have an '09 G37S sedan and recently purchased an '08 E90 335i sedan CPO for the wife. And personally I love the car.
Despite the mentioned issues, I still believe the N54 is a great platform for tuning. With the amount you plan on using in mods, a tuned N54 335i can outrun an E9X M3.
Unfortunately, I do not believe you can purchase the extended maintenance package on a CPO or pre-owned BMW. The option is only available to the first person to purchase the vehicle, but the extended maintenance package and warranty will be transferred to the next owner. Our car came with both.
Despite the mentioned issues, I still believe the N54 is a great platform for tuning. With the amount you plan on using in mods, a tuned N54 335i can outrun an E9X M3.
Unfortunately, I do not believe you can purchase the extended maintenance package on a CPO or pre-owned BMW. The option is only available to the first person to purchase the vehicle, but the extended maintenance package and warranty will be transferred to the next owner. Our car came with both.
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