hadokenuh

Don't forget the G is 300lbs heavier then the 328. The G is rated @ ~270 max but puts down about 230-240 to the wheels. The 328 is rated @260 but puts down about ~255.

On a side note, the VQ37 feels much peppier in the Z I drive.

Beer Magazine

On thing that people fail to understand about dyno graphs it doesn't show the speed of the climb, unless the run is showing seconds. Since HP is a calculation of TQ and RPM it can take much longer for one engine to reach MAX anything than the other.

Most modern turbo engines will drop off boost up high. This is to prevent detonation and to be "safer" for long engine life. This also means they bump the bottom end boost up to get the TQ higher and the car faster.

visualguy

The weight difference between the G37 RWD 7AT and the 328i is only 167 lbs.

According to the dyno tests performed by Automobile magazine, the max torque of the G37 is 236, and for the 2012 328i it's 245 - extremely close. Low-RPM torque is close as well. High-RPM torque is much better on the G37.

From a torque perspective, I can see why someone might prefer the 335i to the G37, but the 328i is a different story.

hadokenuh

Yep, you are right about the weight. My bad. I was under the impression that the G is about 3700 and the 3 is about 3400. And now I forgot why we are comparing 828 to the G37

jepva

I never said the G was perfect. I already commented on the whole new 328i vs G37 pages ago, and gave it credit where credit was due. Sorry, but it's just funny to see this "sniper" guy on here obviously trolling and talking a bunch of bs so I thought I'd call him out on it. I don't appreciate toolbags on the internet being allowed to fill the car forums up with all this BS. I mean really...c'mon the guy is on a soapbox about his G and about how much he loves the new F30. We get it already.

If you want to mention "talking about the cars" - No one in this thread is really having an intelligent conversation anymore...you guys are just going in circles talking about the same things 10 pages back. Maybe the next dyno graphs you post will show different numbers and make the G look better.

visualguy

Agreed - it's going in circles with 328i worshippers posting strange information about torque and weight, others refuting that information, and then the cycle starts again.

I'm personally done with this discussion... I'd consider the 335i if it wasn't so expensive and of questionable reliability - it does offer some advantages compared to the G37. I don't find the 328i to be of much interest, although admittedly it does offer better gas mileage. We'll see what Infiniti offers after the G redesign. Meanwhile, I think the topic has been fully explored, so I'm done.

forrmark

Car and Driver just compared the Infiniti G25 Journey with the Audi A4, BMW 328i, Mercedes C250 sport and the Volvo S60 T6 AWD. You can all feel better, as the Infiniti G25 came in 3rd. They wrote that the G25 managed a third place finish by virtue of its best-in-class handling and steering feel.

2011 G37 sedan/smokey quartz, premium/nav etc. etc.

firstinfiniti

g37guy01

Car and driver reviewed the 528. They said at 1250 tq is 255. That torque makes the difference in heavy stop and go driving relative to the g. I can't understand the viewpoint of the Infiniti worshippers.

visualguy

No, torque at 1250 is 130 for the 2012 328i, and 155 for the G37. If you don't like the low-RPM torque on the G37, you'd be very unhappy with the 328i. By the way, even the 335i doesn't beat the G37 at 1250 (they are the same.)

Ok, I'm seriously done with this now.

kanariya

seriously, why do people start judging cars by posting numbers on the internet.
without even driving the car and people are saying things about the cars like they did an in depth review on it.

go for a test drive and feel the difference.

i personally test drove both and stated my opinion. the 328 felt way more smooth down low. even the GTI felt more responsive down low and its only making 200ish hp and tq.

00Max00

^^^ I seriously don't understand what you are talking about. There were more than one member reviewed the 328 just in this thread alone, and you are keeping ignoring them cause they said something you don't like to hear. And this explains why the only thing may make sense to you was the graphs, to show you some solid numbers, and now you come up with this? Ahhhhaa...

g37guy01

That is what c and d posted, so I'm assuming the torque graph is inaccurate, which has been known to happen.

At any rate I said early on pick the Internet source that bolsters your discussion and then go with it.

kanariya

I respect their opinion after they test drove it. Some liked the handle but dislike the interior. Some liked the car overall. Some dislike it at all. No car can please everyone. That's fine. I dont expect everyone to praise other brands in a G forum coz even in bimmer forums people still complain at times. But the guys keep saying things like they've own both cars when they didn't even drive the car.

I personally test drove them all and stating my opinion but some guys just keep denying with numbers posted on the internet. These numbers could be vary and inaccurate at times which is why I posted a different chart that look different than yours.

There was a thread here that a guy was asking opinion to sell his m3 for a gG and people quickly told him he will be disappointed in the G. That led to me thinking that people here are more mature and less fan boy compared to other forums to have a logical and reasonable discussion for other cars. Apparently this is different from thread to thread.

If you wanna judge a book, go read it first. Instead of judge it by the cover.

devil2k

A few of us test drove it, but our opinions didn't seem to matter. Then when we used numbers to back up our opinions, we're then told to go test drive it.