Originally Posted by jepva

Definitely not jealous of a guy who is so unhappy with his car, that he spends all of his time online in a forum complaining about it, especially if he has two other cars to drive. And FYI..I have multiple cars too, but they all serve a different purpose, I only have one sports sedan, I have an SUV, and I have a truck. I wouldn't have 3 sports sedans, which even makes your situation look even more like some BS. The main thing is that most of your responses come off sounding immature and the highschool kid/20 year old douchebag shows through your posts, so I'm pretty sure I'm right. And no 39 year old I know would ever use the name "sniper" on a forum. If you are really are 39, great, and I apologize, but you'd be the biggest immature douche of a 39 year old I've ever met, if that's really the case. And I really hope you are "done with me" as you say, and stop trolling the hell out of this forum.

And also..nice ninja edit you did there on the transmission in your Audi. I see you changed your post from saying it's actually a 7 speed to a 6 speed later. Sounds like you might not actually know too much about your other car you allegedly own if you don't even know how many speeds are in it.

FWIW, the '12 A6 3.0T has the ZF 8 speed, which is what I meant to say. I didn't realize the '11 still had the 6 speed and the change wasn't until '12.

Originally Posted by devil2k

I drive with the manual mode everyday. It isn't bad at all. In a manual car, if you don't shift at the right time, it upsets the car, too. I rarely run into situation where the 7AT misbehave when it's in manual.

Every car has its flaws. G37 is not perfect. The windshield area rattles, the sunroof area rattles, the paint is garbage and there is no excuse.

However, the similar arguments can be made for BMWs. F30 is a big improvement, but the interior of their previous generation vehicles have been pretty crappy. I personally think E46's interior was better than the ones in E90 & E92. They looked boring & cheap. My buddy used to work for BMW and he said on colder days of winter, he would see flat beds after flat beds coming in with BMWs because they would not start. To compensate for the lack of block heater, some owners had to install a trickle charger or oil pan heater. They also had mad customers who came in with fogged up window all around because the computer system decided that heater is non-essential and therefore could be shut down to conserve power.

BMW drivers continue to overlook these issues, because they love their cars. I understand and respect that because I'm really not that different from them. I love my G37, knowing that it's got it's flaws. But just because it's got a few flaws, doesn't mean it's inferior to a BMW. The reality is, they're both nice cars with similar performance. Put them on a race track, it's down to the driver.

And I'll say it one more time, just because it's made by BMW doesn't make it an ultimate driving machine. A BMW 120d is not one, a BMW 320i is not one. This comparison (g25 vs 328i) was flawed from the beginning, and I would say the same if the comparison was done between a BMW 316d or 320i, and an Infiniti G37.

Originally Posted by visualguy

If you look at the dyno charts for the 2012 328i vs. the G37, you'll see that this statement is incorrect. People must be confusing the 335i with the 328i or something.

Originally Posted by visualguy

If you look at the dyno charts for the 2012 328i vs. the G37, you'll see that this statement is incorrect. People must be confusing the 335i with the 328i or something.

Originally Posted by hadokenuh

Ask this yourself: If both Infiniti and BMW have 2 cars that are almost similar to each other in everything (performance, handling, and PRICE). Which brand which you'd pick?

Originally Posted by hadokenuh

Here is an external link to a F30 328 dyno chart:

Another 2012 328i (N20 Engine) Dyno Hits 240hp / 257 lb-ft at the Wheels! - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST

Most torque is available at 2000 RPM...

Originally Posted by hadokenuh

Here is an external link to a F30 328 dyno chart:

Another 2012 328i (N20 Engine) Dyno Hits 240hp / 257 lb-ft at the Wheels! - BMW 3-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST

Most torque is available at 2000 RPM...

Originally Posted by 00Max00

Same can be said from G37 chart.

Originally Posted by visualguy

No, both the N20 and VQ37VHR give about 200 lb-ft at 2000 RPMs.

Originally Posted by jepva

Definitely not jealous of a guy who is so unhappy with his car, that he spends all of his time online in a forum complaining about it, especially if he has two other cars to drive. And FYI..I have multiple cars too, but they all serve a different purpose, I only have one sports sedan, I have an SUV, and I have a truck. I wouldn't have 3 sports sedans, which even makes your situation look even more like some BS. The main thing is that most of your responses come off sounding immature and the highschool kid/20 year old douchebag shows through your posts, so I'm pretty sure I'm right. And no 39 year old I know would ever use the name "sniper" on a forum. If you are really are 39, great, and I apologize, but you'd be the biggest immature douche of a 39 year old I've ever met, if that's really the case. And I really hope you are "done with me" as you say, and stop trolling the hell out of this forum.

And also..nice ninja edit you did there on the transmission in your Audi. I see you changed your post from saying it's actually a 7 speed to a 6 speed later. Sounds like you might not actually know too much about your other car you allegedly own if you don't even know how many speeds are in it.

FWIW, the '12 A6 3.0T has the ZF 8 speed, which is what I meant to say. I didn't realize the '11 still had the 6 speed and the change wasn't until '12.

Originally Posted by devil2k

I drive with the manual mode everyday. It isn't bad at all. In a manual car, if you don't shift at the right time, it upsets the car, too. I rarely run into situation where the 7AT misbehave when it's in manual.

Every car has its flaws. G37 is not perfect. The windshield area rattles, the sunroof area rattles, the paint is garbage and there is no excuse.

However, the similar arguments can be made for BMWs. F30 is a big improvement, but the interior of their previous generation vehicles have been pretty crappy. I personally think E46's interior was better than the ones in E90 & E92. They looked boring & cheap. My buddy used to work for BMW and he said on colder days of winter, he would see flat beds after flat beds coming in with BMWs because they would not start. To compensate for the lack of block heater, some owners had to install a trickle charger or oil pan heater. They also had mad customers who came in with fogged up window all around because the computer system decided that heater is non-essential and therefore could be shut down to conserve power.

BMW drivers continue to overlook these issues, because they love their cars. I understand and respect that because I'm really not that different from them. I love my G37, knowing that it's got it's flaws. But just because it's got a few flaws, doesn't mean it's inferior to a BMW. The reality is, they're both nice cars with similar performance. Put them on a race track, it's down to the driver.

And I'll say it one more time, just because it's made by BMW doesn't make it an ultimate driving machine. A BMW 120d is not one, a BMW 320i is not one. This comparison (g25 vs 328i) was flawed from the beginning, and I would say the same if the comparison was done between a BMW 316d or 320i, and an Infiniti G37.

Originally Posted by 00Max00

I let go most of your comments until this one. Someone else brought this up earlier in this thread, and it is absolutely up to each individual. If you want an owner's car, it is the Infiniti, hands down. For the B__C___(fill in the blank, you know what it is if you follow the thread), it is BMW.

So, never presume other people's choice base on your own perception. The answer for that question is not that obvious as you may believe, this is all what this thread is about up to now.