new 328 is out, close to pricing of 2012 G37
03-02-2012, 02:44 PM
#166
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^ you are missing the point. my quote was referencing a post which insinuated that the 335 N54 engine was not prone to problems. my reply was specific to that issue in an effort to clarify the statement, and identified that there were in fact numerous with the turbo I6. sure, every car has issues if you dig deep enough. that is common knowledge. infiniti tranny issues are a separate issue.
and you know what i mean by the dealer being familiar with my collegues. most service reps don't have rain-man like memories, unlike your buddy there. my infiniti dealer certainly doesn't know me by name, which suits me just fine.
i'm sure the new 328 is great. and it's 2L turbo may be a stout motor. time will tell.
and you know what i mean by the dealer being familiar with my collegues. most service reps don't have rain-man like memories, unlike your buddy there. my infiniti dealer certainly doesn't know me by name, which suits me just fine.
i'm sure the new 328 is great. and it's 2L turbo may be a stout motor. time will tell.
Today is 2012 not 2007/2008. Need to turn a new page in the book.
03-02-2012, 03:16 PM
#167
But saying something is prone to issues, doesn't mean there will be, which is my point. I know there have been threats of a class action lawsuit against BMW, maybe BMW made some mistakes with the first year model. BMW has not been the only one to make a mistake, Acura and Lexus are up there as well.
Today is 2012 not 2007/2008. Need to turn a new page in the book.
Today is 2012 not 2007/2008. Need to turn a new page in the book.
03-02-2012, 03:53 PM
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However, I do not make up the sales numbers, and everybody is entitled to their opinion, but let's be fair across the board and let's be accurate and not discuss yesterdays problems like they are in the present.
03-02-2012, 05:49 PM
#169
Track record matters, particularly when it's recent. Maybe the redesigned 3-series will prove to be solid - I hope it will prove to be reliable and durable, but it's too early for me to bet any money on that...
It will certainly be good to have an alternative to the G37 (even if somewhat more expensive), particularly if Infiniti drops the manual transmission at some point. BMW is likely to keep it because of the demand in the European market if nothing else.
It will certainly be good to have an alternative to the G37 (even if somewhat more expensive), particularly if Infiniti drops the manual transmission at some point. BMW is likely to keep it because of the demand in the European market if nothing else.
03-02-2012, 07:36 PM
#170
2012 F30 335i N55 vs 328i N20 Engine, Exhaust, and Fly By Sounds - YouTube
That is a video clip comparing the exhaust and engine sound of the 2012 328i (turbo 4 banger) and 2012 335i (turbo I6).
If the 2012 328i doesn't sound pathetic, I don't really know what else does. I mean, I'd be mortified if I was driving a $30K car--let alone one that can cost more than $50G--that sounds that...****ty.
There's no way to make a turbo I4 sound like a V6, I6, or V8. It always sounds like a weed whacker. Yeah, you can put in a bigger turbo and a bigger exhaust, but it's still gonna be a faster, annoyingly louder weed whacker.
That is a video clip comparing the exhaust and engine sound of the 2012 328i (turbo 4 banger) and 2012 335i (turbo I6).
If the 2012 328i doesn't sound pathetic, I don't really know what else does. I mean, I'd be mortified if I was driving a $30K car--let alone one that can cost more than $50G--that sounds that...****ty.
There's no way to make a turbo I4 sound like a V6, I6, or V8. It always sounds like a weed whacker. Yeah, you can put in a bigger turbo and a bigger exhaust, but it's still gonna be a faster, annoyingly louder weed whacker.
03-02-2012, 07:42 PM
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I drove a 328 while getting my oil changed.
My quick review. (and I had a 07 335)
1. Cheaper interior quality
2. Cool looking Navi/Display
3. Dash design is strange
4. Pricey- at theh 44K the car I drove was it wasn't anything but Navi/sun/roof and auto
5. Awesome idea to open the truck with keyless. You just kick under the bumper and the trunk opens.
6. The engine - really good power, smooth and sounded good.
Compared to my G37s 6MT the price I got my car at...no brainer.
My quick review. (and I had a 07 335)
1. Cheaper interior quality
2. Cool looking Navi/Display
3. Dash design is strange
4. Pricey- at theh 44K the car I drove was it wasn't anything but Navi/sun/roof and auto
5. Awesome idea to open the truck with keyless. You just kick under the bumper and the trunk opens.
6. The engine - really good power, smooth and sounded good.
Compared to my G37s 6MT the price I got my car at...no brainer.
03-02-2012, 07:45 PM
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2012 F30 335i N55 vs 328i N20 Engine, Exhaust, and Fly By Sounds - YouTube
That is a video clip comparing the exhaust and engine sound of the 2012 328i (turbo 4 banger) and 2012 335i (turbo I6).
If the 2012 328i doesn't sound pathetic, I don't really know what else does. I mean, I'd be mortified if I was driving a $30K car--let alone one that can cost more than $50G--that sounds that...****ty.
There's no way to make a turbo I4 sound like a V6, I6, or V8. It always sounds like a weed whacker. Yeah, you can put in a bigger turbo and a bigger exhaust, but it's still gonna be a faster, annoyingly louder weed whacker.
That is a video clip comparing the exhaust and engine sound of the 2012 328i (turbo 4 banger) and 2012 335i (turbo I6).
If the 2012 328i doesn't sound pathetic, I don't really know what else does. I mean, I'd be mortified if I was driving a $30K car--let alone one that can cost more than $50G--that sounds that...****ty.
There's no way to make a turbo I4 sound like a V6, I6, or V8. It always sounds like a weed whacker. Yeah, you can put in a bigger turbo and a bigger exhaust, but it's still gonna be a faster, annoyingly louder weed whacker.
03-02-2012, 07:54 PM
#173
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Track record matters, particularly when it's recent. Maybe the redesigned 3-series will prove to be solid - I hope it will prove to be reliable and durable, but it's too early for me to bet any money on that...
It will certainly be good to have an alternative to the G37 (even if somewhat more expensive), particularly if Infiniti drops the manual transmission at some point. BMW is likely to keep it because of the demand in the European market if nothing else.
It will certainly be good to have an alternative to the G37 (even if somewhat more expensive), particularly if Infiniti drops the manual transmission at some point. BMW is likely to keep it because of the demand in the European market if nothing else.
And no, I wouldn't waste my time and gas trying to rev a 4 banger in a parking lot. I don't like weed whackers, remember? Actually, I would never touch another 4 banger, period. 
03-02-2012, 08:27 PM
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03-02-2012, 08:29 PM
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03-02-2012, 08:35 PM
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03-02-2012, 10:34 PM
#180
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Everybody has their own distorted twist on things...and yes I will trade it in for a BMW if Infiniti does not produce a car I like when I'm ready.
No need to be pejorative when someone disagrees with you...but then again this is the Internet.