Potentially serious safety defect
12-07-2011, 01:11 PM
#31
When the tranny on my wifes Acura went out while we were driving, she was in the passenger seat saying she would have no idea WTF was going on, and surely no idea WTF to do about it to at least get to somewhere safe.
12-07-2011, 01:23 PM
#32
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Imagine a driver pulled into his/her garage, hit the "start/stop" button once to shut it off, and then walk upstairs to the house. Not realizing the car didn't shut off because of this defect...< insert your ending of the story here...>
12-07-2011, 01:32 PM
#34
By the time it hits the detector, they wouldn't be awake to hear it.
12-07-2011, 01:33 PM
#35
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If someone doesn't know their motor did not shut off and they went inside, they probably shouldn't be driving cars....
12-07-2011, 01:42 PM
#36
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If they parked 2 cars in the garage and the other car was running, then they might not know.
If they were blasting the stereo in the house, they might not know.
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The list goes on and on.
12-07-2011, 02:05 PM
#38
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Look, people can make up all kinds of probable scenarios for any issue, but in reality almost all of them are not gonna happen. If we had to make fail safes from all made up possibilities, we would never get anywhere and still be in the stone age.
I guess I came from a time when cars didn't do everything for you and everything was far from perfect...we had to learn and know things about the vehicles we were driving. Anything mechanical or electrical(electronics) can have a problem; that's just the way things are.
Nothing in life is 100% fail safe...but we have become a society of people that think everything should be.
If you want to think up all the possible scenarios of something happening with everything around you all day, you might as well just stay in bed...maybe that's not a good idea either, maybe the tv is too loud and you don't hear that out of control Toyota that came down your street and through your yard into your house and runs over you in your bed?
If you wanted to take it even further, you could argue that all garage door openers should have a CO detector to measure the CO content in a garage and should not be able to close if the levels are too high. I'm sure there are people that run cars with the door closed. See how ridiculous it sounds to keep thinking up more situations?
Last edited by tejasg37x; 12-07-2011 at 05:45 PM.
12-07-2011, 04:25 PM
#39
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There are plenty of visuals that would tell you it's on or off, unless you were blind...then you wouldn't be driving a car...i would hope. Look, people can make up all kinds of probable scenarios for any issue, but in reality almost all of them are not gonna happen. If we had to make fail safes from all made up possibilities, we would never get anywhere and still be in the stone age. I guess I came from a time when cars didn't do everything for you and everything was far from perfect...we had to learn and know things about the vehicles we were driving. Anything mechanical or electrical(electronics) can have a problem; that's just the way things are. Nothing in life is 100% fail safe...but we have become a society of people that think everything should be. If you want to think up all the possible scenarios of something happening with everything around you all day, you might as well just stay in bed...maybe that's not a good idea either, maybe the tv is too loud and you don't hear that out of control Toyota that came down your street and through your yard into your house and runs over you in your bed? If you wanted to take it even further, you could argue that all garage door openers should have a CO detector to measure the CO content in a garage and should not be able to close if the levels are too high. I'm sure there are people that run cars with the door closed. See how ridiculous it sounds to keep thinking up more situations? Sorry the sentences all ran together, but ever since the format change mine does this...
A car that cannot shut down could potentially be fatal. And if out is addressed accordingly, a life might be saved.
12-07-2011, 05:23 PM
#41
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I'm not gonna spend my time worrying about all the "what ifs" in life...
Everybody enjoy life without so much worrying...; )
Last edited by tejasg37x; 12-07-2011 at 05:41 PM.
12-07-2011, 09:01 PM
#42
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Huh, I can feel when the car goes off. I don't need to hear it. Also the gauges would show it. Someone who does not hear and who does not take extra precautions should not be driving. Even if I was parked behind a running jet engine I can tell if in fact my car engine is off, so I don't buy people can't tell.
12-07-2011, 09:07 PM
#43
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It was believed that it could never happen...but look, it happened, earthquark and tsunami destroyed a nuclear power plant in Japan this pass spring. If they had thought of this possibility that both earthquark and tsunami could strike at the same time and design the plant accordingly, then the radiation leak might have been prevented.
A car that cannot shut down could potentially be fatal. And if out is addressed accordingly, a life might be saved.
A car that cannot shut down could potentially be fatal. And if out is addressed accordingly, a life might be saved.
Your gas line could also rupture in your house. But like this issue probably a low probability of occurrence. Of course anything in life can happen but the driver is responsible for handling the unknown.
12-07-2011, 09:27 PM
#44
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Also putting the car in drive instead of reverse or hitting the gas instead of the brake. For the latter, I think that is more likely than the car not shutting off.
Your gas line could also rupture in your house. But like this issue probably a low probability of occurrence. Of course anything in life can happen but the driver is responsible for handling the unknown.
Your gas line could also rupture in your house. But like this issue probably a low probability of occurrence. Of course anything in life can happen but the driver is responsible for handling the unknown.
We forum members here know more about cars and I'm sure most of us would know how to shut off a car. But as another forum member already said, the general public might not be as knowledgeable and not aware of this defect.
Any any case, hopefully it is not a widespread defect.
12-07-2011, 11:03 PM
#45
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Of course it is the driver responsible for his driving. But isn't the manufacturer responsible for a start/stop button that actually work as expected?
We forum members here know more about cars and I'm sure most of us would know how to shut off a car. But as another forum member already said, the general public might not be as knowledgeable and not aware of this defect.
Any any case, hopefully it is not a widespread defect.
We forum members here know more about cars and I'm sure most of us would know how to shut off a car. But as another forum member already said, the general public might not be as knowledgeable and not aware of this defect.
Any any case, hopefully it is not a widespread defect.
Not being able to use the start button is a major annoyance no doubt, but two out of the hundred of thousands of infinities that are sold is nt by any means a portend of a serious safety issue.
A safety issue is what happens when your car dies in the intersection of a busy highway.