Potentially serious safety defect
12-05-2011, 09:45 PM
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I know that Nissan made a HUGE deal that they had "brake overrules throttle" since 2007 or something, right after all the Toyota issues popped up. So you'd figure at least that part would work but I havent tested that while in motion either.
12-05-2011, 09:46 PM
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12-05-2011, 11:55 PM
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Yes its very hit or miss. Mostly miss. But when it hits... like in my case... it stings like hell. I'd like to be able to shut my off when I want to. And luckily in my case, I wasn't on the way to anywhere important so I was able to get to the dealer right away. It's not what I want in a car that's only 3 months old and in the other G25's case, 734 miles old. BCMs and any other components that had failed should not go out so quickly.
I pretty sure there are many people out there that wouldn't know how to choke out the car. Especially if they had this happened to them at night and there is no good place to put secure the car. Remember, once you stop it, it doesn't start back up nor does the alarm work.
12-06-2011, 12:10 AM
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I think it's a serious condition Infiniti needs to address, ASAP. I'd like to know if my car is affected, or I've been lucky enough to have nothing but misses...
OP, you're right on.
OP, you're right on.
12-06-2011, 02:51 AM
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Not a major safety issue like Toyota had but it is something to keep in mind. I know it's a major inconvenience. 30k miles with no major issues and i've had An aftermarket alarm with remote start installed on the car since about 3k miles. Maybe one of those tsunami vehicles. That's weird. I have a 2010 sedan btw. Had this happened after hours I would have been putting this free roadside assistance to use.
12-06-2011, 07:49 AM
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Not a major safety issue like Toyota had but it is something to keep in mind. I know it's a major inconvenience. 30k miles with no major issues and i've had An aftermarket alarm with remote start installed on the car since about 3k miles. Maybe one of those tsunami vehicles. That's weird. I have a 2010 sedan btw. Had this happened after hours I would have been putting this free roadside assistance to use.
As I said previously, Nissan was proud enough to advertise that they've had "brake takes priority" in their cars since 2007......I suppose we all might want to test that it actually works in our cars!
12-06-2011, 01:39 PM
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I had a similar problem with my '09 G37xS a few weeks back, car would not respond to the start/stop button to turn off, no power locks, etc. Very long story but it was after hours and after trying a million things did get it to turn off. Roadside Assist took it to the dealer. Car was there for about a week. Problem was the BCM went bad. After the replacement, everything seems fine now but it was a pretty strange feeling not having a backup way to shut down the car.
12-06-2011, 02:39 PM
#25
Somethings to keep in mind.
Having a run away condition (engine revving up on its own) is much different than one that simply doesn't turn off. Indeed this is a huge safety concern and crash potential is very high.
OTOH, a car that won't turn off won't kill you (anyone remember Christine?). Some suggestions such as pulling the fuel pump fuse is one way to kill it. If it's a stick, just stall it. Either way, you should still be able to manually lock the doors. If the car sits for too long before being seen by the dealer, the battery will likely run down, but aside from inconvenience, I don't really see it as much of a safety issue.
Having a run away condition (engine revving up on its own) is much different than one that simply doesn't turn off. Indeed this is a huge safety concern and crash potential is very high.
OTOH, a car that won't turn off won't kill you (anyone remember Christine?). Some suggestions such as pulling the fuel pump fuse is one way to kill it. If it's a stick, just stall it. Either way, you should still be able to manually lock the doors. If the car sits for too long before being seen by the dealer, the battery will likely run down, but aside from inconvenience, I don't really see it as much of a safety issue.
12-07-2011, 04:29 AM
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Well, its very possible it could turn INTO a Toyota-like issue......if the "emergency shut down" feature fails at the right time, its the same as what happened with Toyota/Lexus: potentially a car accelerating out of control with no way to shut it down.
As I said previously, Nissan was proud enough to advertise that they've had "brake takes priority" in their cars since 2007......I suppose we all might want to test that it actually works in our cars!
As I said previously, Nissan was proud enough to advertise that they've had "brake takes priority" in their cars since 2007......I suppose we all might want to test that it actually works in our cars!
12-07-2011, 08:34 AM
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Agreed... this is a very serious condition -- and one day if you had to emergently turn off your car and couldn't, you'll be glad they're troubleshooting this issue now to find a solution....
12-07-2011, 08:35 AM
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??? are you kidding me, i can think of many reasons why not being able to turn off your vehicle can be a "real safety issue"
12-07-2011, 11:00 AM
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Not to say this couldn't be an issue, but two Infiniti's out of how many? I don't know if I would call this a serious safety issue...there could possibly be situations where it could be, but mostly not so much.
There are many reports of cars of all makes that use the key and cylinder that have had this problem too...it's not just an Infiniti thing, or keyless ignition.
As far as the Toyota thing...how many really believe all the hype? It's quite interesting how after the last couple of Toyota "incidents" were proven to be hoaxes the "incidents" stopped.
It sounded a lot like the Audi fiasco in the 80's that turned out to be bogus.
There are many reports of cars of all makes that use the key and cylinder that have had this problem too...it's not just an Infiniti thing, or keyless ignition.
As far as the Toyota thing...how many really believe all the hype? It's quite interesting how after the last couple of Toyota "incidents" were proven to be hoaxes the "incidents" stopped.
It sounded a lot like the Audi fiasco in the 80's that turned out to be bogus.
12-07-2011, 11:31 AM
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I agree. It's discomforting to think of the many scenarios that could occur, mainly with my wife as the solo driver while out of town. Odds are she will never experience this issue, but I'm sure going to instruct her on how to shut it down should it happen.