So we test drove a bunch of cars.
05-05-2011 | 09:20 AM
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So go tell Mike that AWD does in fact help you on turns. Yes, even when you're racing...which wasn't the subject of the debate in the first place, but still proves my point, nonetheless.
05-05-2011 | 09:57 AM
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It seems a lot of people here have a hard time wrapping their head around how an engine that makes a lot of torque down low in the powerband can be incredibly fun to drive. I had the same type of comments when I posted about how powerful the Audi A5 with the 2.0T engine feels when driving it. Like the S60, it makes peak torque at very low RPM and stays there midway through the powerband. I love engines like that, but probably because I grew up with 5.0L Mustangs, which were another car that had much more low end torque than horsepower. The polar opposite would be a car like the Honda S2000. It has very little low end power and must be wound out near redline to get any kind of driving satisfaction out of it. I'd never own one just because it lacks torque, low end or otherwise.
Owning an STi doesn't mean you've done four wheel drifts.
And anyways, you completely missed the point (once again). Yes grip is faster than drifting. On a long sweeping corner, I can get more grip while accelerating in an AWD vehicle than I can in a FWD vehicle, all else equal. That's an undeniable fact.
Remember when Audi's quattro was banned from sanctioned racing? Yeah, it was said to be a big, unfair advantage. LOL
And anyways, you completely missed the point (once again). Yes grip is faster than drifting. On a long sweeping corner, I can get more grip while accelerating in an AWD vehicle than I can in a FWD vehicle, all else equal. That's an undeniable fact.
Remember when Audi's quattro was banned from sanctioned racing? Yeah, it was said to be a big, unfair advantage. LOL
Hahahahha....it's funny how you somehow always try to turn everything into a discussion about racing. Don't look now, but the OP was just talking about test driving various cars, including an AWD Acura. He's not talking about racing. Here's a newsflash for you: On the street, people accelerate through turns all the time.
Seems like you are just as guilty... JUST SAYING.
That guy was talking about coming out of a turn. Not going into or during a turn.
05-05-2011 | 12:06 PM
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No.. Cornering speed in my sti was slower than s2000. Sti awd and power is simply a bandaid for a car with a poor suspension setup and 60/40 weight distribution due to the awd system. If you have ever driven an s2000 and it sounds like you haven't, you would know that you don't need to be at redline just to enjoy the car. Just cause a car lacks power down low doesn't mean it isn't fun to drive unless all you care about is straight line acceleration.
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05-05-2011 | 12:29 PM
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It seems a lot of people here have a hard time wrapping their head around how an engine that makes a lot of torque down low in the powerband can be incredibly fun to drive. I had the same type of comments when I posted about how powerful the Audi A5 with the 2.0T engine feels when driving it. Like the S60, it makes peak torque at very low RPM and stays there midway through the powerband. I love engines like that, but probably because I grew up with 5.0L Mustangs, which were another car that had much more low end torque than horsepower. The polar opposite would be a car like the Honda S2000. It has very little low end power and must be wound out near redline to get any kind of driving satisfaction out of it. I'd never own one just because it lacks torque, low end or otherwise.
05-05-2011 | 12:32 PM
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Dang, whenver MSCA shows up, any thread can become heated 
Back to the topic, I showed my wife pictures of the Volvo and she thought it was ugly. Quote "Why are you showing a corolla, hon'?"
I looked at the specs and they look interesting though!
Surprised, no one has mentioned anything about the BMW.
I told her folks here think the GS350 is old and not worth it. She kinds of agree and is thinking about the IS350 now haha. The IS350 inventory seems very low though, including used cars.
Back to the topic, I showed my wife pictures of the Volvo and she thought it was ugly. Quote "Why are you showing a corolla, hon'?"
I looked at the specs and they look interesting though!Surprised, no one has mentioned anything about the BMW.
I told her folks here think the GS350 is old and not worth it. She kinds of agree and is thinking about the IS350 now haha. The IS350 inventory seems very low though, including used cars.
05-05-2011 | 02:37 PM
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I take it the two of you already crossed Mercedes off of your list?
05-05-2011 | 03:01 PM
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05-05-2011 | 03:11 PM
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If you're going to test drive the IS350, I suggest you mess around with the paddle shifters. I test drove 3 IS350's a few months ago from the same dealership and every single one had a 1-2 second lag before it would actually shift when I hit the upshift paddle. Hopefully they fixed the issue ?
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05-05-2011 | 03:51 PM
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Dang, whenver MSCA shows up, any thread can become heated
Back to the topic, I showed my wife pictures of the Volvo and she thought it was ugly. Quote "Why are you showing a corolla, hon'?" I looked at the specs and they look interesting though!
Surprised, no one has mentioned anything about the BMW.
I told her folks here think the GS350 is old and not worth it. She kinds of agree and is thinking about the IS350 now haha. The IS350 inventory seems very low though, including used cars.
Back to the topic, I showed my wife pictures of the Volvo and she thought it was ugly. Quote "Why are you showing a corolla, hon'?"
I looked at the specs and they look interesting though!Surprised, no one has mentioned anything about the BMW.
I told her folks here think the GS350 is old and not worth it. She kinds of agree and is thinking about the IS350 now haha. The IS350 inventory seems very low though, including used cars.
05-05-2011 | 05:05 PM
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If she goes that route, I get to buy something else to replace my G next year
05-05-2011 | 05:27 PM
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If you're going to test drive the IS350, I suggest you mess around with the paddle shifters. I test drove 3 IS350's a few months ago from the same dealership and every single one had a 1-2 second lag before it would actually shift when I hit the upshift paddle. Hopefully they fixed the issue ?
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05-05-2011 | 05:42 PM
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all paddle shifters, or any type of tiptronic or whatever they want to call them these days, will have lag. you have to get the true dual clutch system like DSG if you want instant, and smooth shifting.
05-05-2011 | 10:10 PM
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True there is some lag, but none of the cars I've owned with paddles (G, TL, TSX) ever had a whole 2 second delay before shifting.
