So we test drove a bunch of cars.
05-04-2011, 05:15 PM
#31
Did you consider the new Volvo S60 T6?, fully loaded - should be around $42-44K OTD...?
Seems to have good overall reviews; it's new so you need to be careful with the "quinks" in new Models, No matter who the Manufacturer. Or for that matter, if you don't mind FWD cars: a Fully loaded Maxima or the Caddy CTS ( the coupe is really Nice).
Seems to have good overall reviews; it's new so you need to be careful with the "quinks" in new Models, No matter who the Manufacturer. Or for that matter, if you don't mind FWD cars: a Fully loaded Maxima or the Caddy CTS ( the coupe is really Nice).
Do you have any personal experience with it? Is it a luxury brand name or more like a premium brand like VW?The new Maxima is ugly for my taste. Never a fan of Cadillac either
05-04-2011, 07:47 PM
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05-04-2011, 10:14 PM
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05-04-2011, 10:21 PM
#37
It seems a lot of people here have a hard time wrapping their head around how an engine that makes a lot of torque down low in the powerband can be incredibly fun to drive. I had the same type of comments when I posted about how powerful the Audi A5 with the 2.0T engine feels when driving it. Like the S60, it makes peak torque at very low RPM and stays there midway through the powerband. I love engines like that, but probably because I grew up with 5.0L Mustangs, which were another car that had much more low end torque than horsepower. The polar opposite would be a car like the Honda S2000. It has very little low end power and must be wound out near redline to get any kind of driving satisfaction out of it. I'd never own one just because it lacks torque, low end or otherwise.
05-04-2011, 10:23 PM
#38
And anyways, you completely missed the point (once again). Yes grip is faster than drifting. On a long sweeping corner, I can get more grip while accelerating in an AWD vehicle than I can in a FWD vehicle, all else equal. That's an undeniable fact.
Remember when Audi's quattro was banned from sanctioned racing? Yeah, it was said to be a big, unfair advantage. LOL
05-04-2011, 10:28 PM
#39
Owning an STi doesn't mean you've done four wheel drifts.
And anyways, you completely missed the point (once again). Yes grip is faster than drifting. On a long sweeping corner, I can get more grip while accelerating in an AWD vehicle than I can in a FWD vehicle, all else equal. That's an undeniable fact.
And anyways, you completely missed the point (once again). Yes grip is faster than drifting. On a long sweeping corner, I can get more grip while accelerating in an AWD vehicle than I can in a FWD vehicle, all else equal. That's an undeniable fact.
Simply put, AWD doesn't help turn the car. Otherwise, the GT-R, EVO, STI, and every other performance AWD car wouldn't suffer from catastrophic understeer on a skidpad or track.
05-05-2011, 07:44 AM
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I've tracked both my Honda s2000 and my 2008 sti consistently. Let me tell you corner entry speeds are much higher in the s2k compared to the sti. However, the Subaru awd allows me to power out of a corner much faster since all four wheels are putting power to the ground. However, what kills the fun in the sti is he nasty mid corner understeer which is due to the poor weight distribution of the car.
Owning an STi doesn't mean you've done four wheel drifts.
And anyways, you completely missed the point (once again). Yes grip is faster than drifting. On a long sweeping corner, I can get more grip while accelerating in an AWD vehicle than I can in a FWD vehicle, all else equal. That's an undeniable fact.
Remember when Audi's quattro was banned from sanctioned racing? Yeah, it was said to be a big, unfair advantage. LOL
And anyways, you completely missed the point (once again). Yes grip is faster than drifting. On a long sweeping corner, I can get more grip while accelerating in an AWD vehicle than I can in a FWD vehicle, all else equal. That's an undeniable fact.
Remember when Audi's quattro was banned from sanctioned racing? Yeah, it was said to be a big, unfair advantage. LOL
05-05-2011, 08:18 AM
#45
Hahahahha....it's funny how you somehow always try to turn everything into a discussion about racing. Don't look now, but the OP was just talking about test driving various cars, including an AWD Acura. He's not talking about racing. Here's a newsflash for you: On the street, people accelerate through turns all the time.