Why would you need to change the ratio? the ratio that come from the factory is good enough. A 50/50 ratio will give you protection from -34F to 265 F. You can mix it 60/40 antifreeze/water to protect you down to -60F but then you'll reduce the boiling point of the solution.

 

Well that was mostly a joke as it has gotten that cold (-65F) here only once in my 57 years. Temps lower than -34F are less rare. But if it did get that cold again, then the 50/50 would clearly not be acceptable, correct? I would think that a reduced boiling point would be better in those circumstances than a frozen hard as a rock cooling system.

 

I don't know about you guys but if it's -65F outside I'm staying in.
And then, the first chance I get I'm moving south .

 

Words of wisdom! I have been thinking about that myself.

 

We have four G35x's in the family, my wife has an '08, I have an '09 (haven't winter-ed it yet), and another '08 and '06 ..

all stellar in the winter.. no worries, ATESSA is sweet. These vehicles are all driving in the Chicago winters, btw -- a modest winter annually.

 

Yeah, if there's a concern that the temperature will drop below -34F then you should probably change the ratio.

 

Me too. I think he thinks he's driving an Evo with studless winter tires.

 

Hi there. This is the first time I have an AWD car, so I may have a stupid question.

Do you use tire chains on AWD cars, and in particular on G37x?
If yes, do I need chains for all the wheels?

Thanks

 

If you have snow tires on the G37X it would have to get really bad for you to require chains IMHO. Many of us do quite well with even All Season tires. But if you do use chains, the owners manual under AWD Driving Precautions (page 5-7) says that you put them on the rear wheels,

 

well i just came back from trying my new G37x on a big empty parking lot with 3 fresh inches of snow on it.

with the "snow" mode on, i proceeded to accelerate, brake, do donuts, figure 8s and everything in between.

it was a blast. the angle of lean as i did hard turns and donuts was minimal.

i noticed the "slip" light come on as i did hard, fast donuts and the wheels slipping underneath me. that's apparently normal for those conditions.

the car seemed stable and capable of handling a few inches of snow under it in AWD mode. the braking at 25 MPH on a snowy surface was good.

my G has the Goodyear RSAs on it, and they seemed to handle the snow just fine.

 

My dealer advised to just use snow mode if your stuck. Did you try any of those maneuvers with snow mode off?

 

Another fail by a dealer who can't read the owners manual of the product that he sells. See page 2-29 (2009). "For driving or starting on snowy roads or slippery areas, turn on the SNOW MODE switch." IMO the "snow mode" seems to work very well; this winter I have used it a lot.

 

I'm sorry, I just don't believe this. Your review contradicts what thousands of tirerack reviewers experienced, including myself. These tires are barely acceptable in the rain and atrocious in any kind of snow, let alone ice. The amount of side to side slippage is ridiculous. AWD helps somewhat with potential straight line traction issues.

A few soft turns at 25 mph on several inches of snow on these tires will send you into the curb. We just got some snow in NJ this past weekend. These tires are not up to snuff.

I'm surprised Infiniti has not gotten serious complaints about putting them on a car with a $37k+ MSRP. Maybe they have?

 

I added some highlighting to your post. Hope you will not mind.

Well, as I have said in the forum (but in a separate thread) before, it is odd that these tires on this car get such highly varied reviews. Having said that, as you know if you read the thread, my experience is more along the lines of blitzebill. Perhaps it is driving style or some other variable in play here (underlying surface, snow composition etc).

But, answer this; what possible incentive would we have to lie about how our cars handled in the snow with these particular tires on them? I certainly don't have any vested interest in Goodyear RSA's or the Infiniti brand. In fact, my car is leased and will probably be my only Infiniti (like the car but the dealership is just too far away). I also doubt blitzebill has any reason to lie about what he experienced.

As for the tire rack reviews, your statement is correct. I can't explain it, but these tires work well for me and as you can see from the post which started this thread, I have extensive experience in driving AWD and 4X4 vehicles in snow conditions. Perhaps that is the difference. But at age 57, I can also ensure you there is no driving capability ego involved either.

In any case, I was truthful in my post and believe blitzebill was also.

 

Poor wording in my part. I'm not implying you're giving good reviews because you have a vested interest in either company. I just thought that the post I quoted made these tires out to be almost winter tires when my experience doesn't even show them to be average all-season tires. As you mention, perhaps this is due to some background variables we are not taking into account, I don't know. All I know is that this weekend was so bad that I ordered winter tires, in comparison with other all-seasons I have had. They're being mounted today.

I've boldfaced the statement above because I never at any poin expected winter tire traction from an all-season, just reasonable grip to get you home safely.