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Old 10-19-2015, 01:15 PM
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^ Looks nice other than what's going on with the bumper on either side of the license plate but the only way to own a German car is under warranty or on lease. German Reliability vs Japanese Reliability = No Contest.
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Old 10-19-2015, 09:43 PM
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Exactly. That's why I'm die-hard Japanese. It's all about getting the most value for your money.

I don't want to buy a 40/50/60k dollar car that costs a small fortune to maintain and keep in perfect running order.
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Old 10-20-2015, 02:07 AM
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That M2 is small too. I have seen one in person and it looks way too small for me
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Old 10-20-2015, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by evil-G-nius
That M2 is small too. I have seen one in person and it looks way too small for me
That's what I like about it. I use to have an e46 and thought it was the perfect size; the M2 is almost identically sized to the e46. It's smaller than a 4-Series length wise by around 9". The M2's trunk is just as big as a 4-Series and it has folding rear seats. I rarely have back seat passengers so it's not a big deal for me to have a smaller car. I know it won't suit everyone's needs, but smaller cars are so much more fun to drive. The Q60 is going to be 1.5~2" longer than a 4-Series. Not to say it won't handle great or be a great car in itself. Just that it's between these two cars that I'm contemplating on buying. Right now I have no idea which car will come out ahead, but I know I'll make a decision once everyone's cards are on the table.
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That's what I like about it. I use to have an e46 and thought it was the perfect size; the M2 is almost identically sized to the e46. It's smaller than a 4-Series length wise by around 9". The M2's trunk is just as big as a 4-Series and it has folding rear seats. I rarely have back seat passengers so it's not a big deal for me to have a smaller car. I know it won't suit everyone's needs, but smaller cars are so much more fun to drive. The Q60 is going to be 1.5~2" longer than a 4-Series. Not to say it won't handle great or be a great car in itself. Just that it's between these two cars that I'm contemplating on buying. Right now I have no idea which car will come out ahead, but I know I'll make a decision once everyone's cards are on the table.
I also prefer smaller. another thing to consider is resale value - G37's sell for half of what they cost new after 2 years. I would guess BMW's hold their value a little more.
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Old 10-21-2015, 01:55 AM
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I also prefer smaller. another thing to consider is resale value - G37's sell for half of what they cost new after 2 years. I would guess BMW's hold their value a little more.
Good point.

But if you plan on only keeping a vehicle for 2 or 3 years, you might as well lease it.

Especially if you're buying a brand new vehicle. You lose a ton of money selling a new vehicle after owning it for only a couple years.

My car new sold for $45k (to whoever originally purchased it). I bought it with 16k miles for $27K.

Crazy depreciation.
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Old 10-21-2015, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Landshark
I also prefer smaller. another thing to consider is resale value - G37's sell for half of what they cost new after 2 years. I would guess BMW's hold their value a little more.

That's not true at all, I dare you to find me one unmolested example of G37 selling for half the original cost after 2 years. I've sold my G35 for 45% of the original price 7 years later.
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Old 10-21-2015, 11:03 AM
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Frankly if I can afford it, I prefer new. I keep cars for at least 10 years and frankly you have no idea how the previous owner handled the single most important thing ..... oil changes. So many people buy a car (including expensive ones) and become the cheapest ba$tard in the world when it comes to the life blood of a car.
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Old 10-21-2015, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 2008G-Man
Frankly if I can afford it, I prefer new. I keep cars for at least 10 years and frankly you have no idea how the previous owner handled the single most important thing ..... oil changes. So many people buy a car (including expensive ones) and become the cheapest ba$tard in the world when it comes to the life blood of a car.
If I can afford it I also prefer new as I keep my cars for a while. I have had my current 2008 G/Q which I bought brand new. So as long as I am able, I plan on buying the new Q60 new when they come out.
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Old 10-21-2015, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 2008G-Man
So many people buy a car (including expensive ones) and become the cheapest ba$tard in the world when it comes to the life blood of a car.
No sh*t! When I lived in LA I saw a guy in a Ferarri F430 getting an oil change at an Oil Stop! Its not even my car and I cringed!
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Old 10-22-2015, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by WillCo1
Exactly. That's why I'm die-hard Japanese. It's all about getting the most value for your money.

I don't want to buy a 40/50/60k dollar car that costs a small fortune to maintain and keep in perfect running order.
I was amazed that Tesla scored so low it's not even a recommended car by Consumer Reports anymore. Also was surprised to see the BMW 2-Series which the M2 is based off of had an above average reliability rating.



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Infiniti is kinda low! Did they say what 3 models they tested?
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Old 10-22-2015, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by evil-G-nius
Infiniti is kinda low! Did they say what 3 models they tested?
I saw this and their scoring includes the Infotainment system, which the Q50 had issues with when it was introduced, so that is why it is low. However, I don't consider that a reliability factor, as I am more concerned with the mechanical and things that could leave me strained.
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Old 10-22-2015, 01:27 PM
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^^^Agreed. I thought Infiniti was pretty mechanically sound and reliable. On the flip side, I have heard more than enough horror stories about Audi...yet they are in the "most reliable" section? IDK...I think its all BS personally
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Old 10-22-2015, 01:59 PM
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Thats crazy.......because I think it MOPS the floor with a G35 Coupe, G37 Coupe, Audi S5, BMW 435, Lexus RC, ATS Coupe, and a Genesis Coupe. Mopping sh*t up all day long.


This is easily the most beautiful coupe to ever come out of Japan. It held its very own among million dollar vehicles, at Pebble Beach.

Eesh. Looks like a Japanese version of the A5.
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