jasonviper

Maybe a base Q60, but there are many features, including safety and tech that the M2 doesn't offer. Sure you may not care about those features, but some people are looking for those features.

sdwilly

Which features?

jasonviper

I'm mainly referring to safety and convenience features. Just compare the specs and you'll see. A couple I can think of is; the pre collision systems, autonomous braking, power tilt & telescopic steering wheel, remote start, heated seats, heated steering wheel, 360 degree parking cams, adjustable suspension ....the list goes on. Even something as simple as aluminum pedals, I know, now I'm being picky but c'mon BMW why not include some nice looking sport pedals in your M model.

sdwilly

It actually has the vast majority of that. There is one package (Executive) that includes the a few of them and the rest are stock (Only rear view camera and not surround).

Sure it doesn't have aluminum pedals, but what $100 add on and you have them. Also includes Apple Car Play for $300.

jasonviper

Yeah I know the pedals are a cheap add on, but a fully loaded Q60 will sell for basically the same amount as the M2 because dealers aren't discounting the M2 much, in fact some are marking it up. The Q60 RS will probably be 3-4 tenths slower than the M2 and differences between drivers can eliminate that variance so IMO the RS is the better deal. I stress IMO.

sdwilly

I will give you that the M2 won't be going for a discount, BMW's rarely do, and sure it all comes down to personally preference. I'm fairly agnostic when it comes to cars, I float from one to another and whatever happens to strike my fancy at the moment I'm looking is what I'll get. I'll check out the RS when it comes out (I'm really hoping that it's a lot more impressive than the 3.0 I test drove a few weeks back, I really loved my IPL and there are way too many BMW's around here as is). If it doesn't do it for me I'll check out the M2, M4, 718 CS, C63 and maybe a few others, regardless what I pick I won't fault anyone from going with a RS (And who knows still a few months to go, I might get the RS).

ThebigJ

Almost my thoughts.

What I might add would be it was supposed to be a cheaper and more reliable BMW imitation. It was very good at that at least on paper.

Now back to the RS vs M2. One should understand that it is not the straight line acceleration alone that makes M2 superior, in fact it is not really that fast since the new M240i, which is just a slightly pepped 2 series, WILL almost match that (or come very close). The driving pleasure between the two will be night and day.

P Casey

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A car that does 4.6 in 0-60 vs one that does it in 4 flat or lower means you are putting 3 plus cars on the trailer.


Lol the m2 is a sub 4 second car, or 4 on the dot.

The Infiniti RS will not be in that ball park.

Different drivers won't do much, maybe new turbos or e85 or spray will get you there but that's it.

That's ****img funny

sdwilly

At this price point they should have gone DCT.

ThebigJ

Funny thing is QX30 has the Merc 7speed DCT. They could obviously have brought it to the RS.

jasonviper

These cars make enough power that you just can't mash the gas pedal and expect optimal acceleration times. The driver who doesn't know their vehicles sweet spot in regards to acceleration from a standstill with these cars will lose. Ok, BMW says 4.1 to 60 and I guess your using Infiniti's listed time but we already know the engine is capable of faster times. I've embarrassed plenty of cars that should be faster than my Hybrid Sport simply because they couldn't put the power down correctly. It wouldn't surprise me to see a AWD Red Sport hit 0-60 in 4.3 - 4.4

eljoker

That DCT is tiny and fits only on the FWD models. Would of never worked.

ThebigJ

For 400hp they could have gotten the 7 speed AMG dct speedshift which is used in their rwd's too.

User 122320

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Coulda Woulda Shouda.

Infinti. don't give a flippa.

eljoker

Idk who asked about the wood option but we have a coupe with it. Here is what I could do real quick when we were moving the lot around today.