Q60 Final Teaser - Revealed in Detroit
#3061
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You should just head to Houston, the dealership next to my house has 5 or 6 300hp models on the lot and they are definitely letting people test drive it.
#3062
Although I am not satisfied about the new q60 I have to say I disagree with the criticism about the HP of the new 3.0TT.
First of all this is not something new, BMW has a very similar engine with the same output since 7-8 years. A direct injection twinscroll (Infiniti has advantage here with TT) 3.0 turbo which is used in models ending 35, and let me tell you 335 feels MUCH faster than my g37.
I believe most people here know that HP itself is meaningless, what matters is the torque curve. 300hp may seem low but its max torque starts from 1500RPM which means unlike the 3.7 VQ engine that only gives its peak torque at really high rpms with the new engine you are almost always in the max torque band. Even with the 7at you can not always keep your rpms very close to the max hp rpm therefore 3.0TT will be considerably faster than the outgoing model no doubt!!!
Now the problem is, almost every company uses a similar approach and have turbo v4 and turbo v6 with similar output so infiniti is not standing out in that department...
I wish Q60 was considerably lighter and the entry 2.0 liter turbo came with 275hp or so like most of the 2liter turbos today(wrx,camaro, 310 in 2.3 ecoboost, bmw328 is probably also close but underrated), and than instead of a RS I wish all 3.0TT's came with 370hp.
I don't like RS version since it is just more horsepower with no improvement in handling and too expensive.
First of all this is not something new, BMW has a very similar engine with the same output since 7-8 years. A direct injection twinscroll (Infiniti has advantage here with TT) 3.0 turbo which is used in models ending 35, and let me tell you 335 feels MUCH faster than my g37.
I believe most people here know that HP itself is meaningless, what matters is the torque curve. 300hp may seem low but its max torque starts from 1500RPM which means unlike the 3.7 VQ engine that only gives its peak torque at really high rpms with the new engine you are almost always in the max torque band. Even with the 7at you can not always keep your rpms very close to the max hp rpm therefore 3.0TT will be considerably faster than the outgoing model no doubt!!!
Now the problem is, almost every company uses a similar approach and have turbo v4 and turbo v6 with similar output so infiniti is not standing out in that department...
I wish Q60 was considerably lighter and the entry 2.0 liter turbo came with 275hp or so like most of the 2liter turbos today(wrx,camaro, 310 in 2.3 ecoboost, bmw328 is probably also close but underrated), and than instead of a RS I wish all 3.0TT's came with 370hp.
I don't like RS version since it is just more horsepower with no improvement in handling and too expensive.
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#3063
same here - learned my lesson.
its going to need Android Auto (because if i can't swap a head unit, i better at least be able to configure it how i like it, features and sound-wise)
i will also have to try the climate control, because i HATE what's in the G37.
its going to need Android Auto (because if i can't swap a head unit, i better at least be able to configure it how i like it, features and sound-wise)
i will also have to try the climate control, because i HATE what's in the G37.
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Boomer-Bob (09-07-2016)
#3064
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Here is another Dyno on the Red Sport Q50 . This one is from Fast Intention's and I post this because someone said that the didn't trust stillens. Well here is another shop with similar results. Now unless they are using the same dyno, the VR engine is showing under rated from factory.
Now it looks like with some Intakes and a tune, 400+ whp is possible.
Now it looks like with some Intakes and a tune, 400+ whp is possible.
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#3065
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Here is another Dyno on the Red Sport Q50 . This one is from Fast Intention's and I post this because someone said that the didn't trust stillens. Well here is another shop with similar results. Now unless they are using the same dyno, the VR engine is showing under rated from factory.
Now it looks like with some Intakes and a tune, 400+ whp is possible.
Now it looks like with some Intakes and a tune, 400+ whp is possible.
#3066
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So I remember downloading the U.S. Q60 owners manual 3 weeks ago and under the Tires and Wheels section it was still showing 20in wheels with 275 width tires. I just downloaded a new version and the first thing it says is that the info in the Tires and Wheels section has been updated - sure enough, they have taken out the 20in wheels. It just shows 19s across the board with RS having 245/265 set up. There also seems to be a 245 and a 255 option for the front and rear also (guessing SS models get 255s all around). And in the manual they seem to RFs across the board. More confusion....
Last edited by tomcatm; 09-07-2016 at 02:04 PM.
#3067
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Here is another Dyno on the Red Sport Q50 . This one is from Fast Intention's and I post this because someone said that the didn't trust stillens. Well here is another shop with similar results. Now unless they are using the same dyno, the VR engine is showing under rated from factory. Now it looks like with some Intakes and a tune, 400+ whp is possible.
#3068
I wish someone would post SAE numbers somewhere. All I see are STD which can vary greatly based on location and tend to run high. My old GTO dyno'd 425whp STD and 400whp SAE same day same run.
#3069
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Im hoping with Down pipes, CBE, Intake, and a 93 octane tune it can hit 450whp. Thats asking for a lot I know but I an dream right? Also I saw a thread where an RS Q50 took an SRT8 300 with bolt ons. Im not to familiar with the STR8s but I was an older Gen.
Seems promising. Now we just need some one to offer transmission services as I still think that needs some work.
Seems promising. Now we just need some one to offer transmission services as I still think that needs some work.
#3070
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Im hoping with Down pipes, CBE, Intake, and a 93 octane tune it can hit 450whp. Thats asking for a lot I know but I an dream right? Also I saw a thread where an RS Q50 took an SRT8 300 with bolt ons. Im not to familiar with the STR8s but I was an older Gen.
Seems promising. Now we just need some one to offer transmission services as I still think that needs some work.
Seems promising. Now we just need some one to offer transmission services as I still think that needs some work.
SRT 300 is a boat and does a 1/4 in like 13.4 and lucky to hit 0-60 in under 5 seconds. Unless you're on spray.
#3072
Also I saw a thread where an RS Q50 took an SRT8 300 with bolt ons. Im not to familiar with the STR8s but I was an older Gen.
#3073
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