Q60 Final Teaser - Revealed in Detroit
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The Q60 has the ATESSA AWD system. maybe both cars should go head to head to see which one offers better handling.
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The only differenece between a torque vectoring AWD and the ATTESA ETS is that when torque is divided when wheel spin happens, the vectoring has the ability to monitor all 4 tires individually, and affect torque delivery to any 1 of 4 tires individually. While the ETS system delivers power in pairs, either to the front 2 wheels, or the rear 2 wheels. in stable conditions the ATESSA ETS acts as a RWD with nearly 100% power to the rear wheels. When these start to slip, up to 50% torque (or more not sure), can be delivered to the front pair of wheels to maintain traction.
Torque vectoring does have an edge as individually monitoring all 4 wheels is more effective in managing and correcting traction. This would probably come in handy in heavier than normal snow conditions to the point you should not even be on the road in the first place, but probably nuanced in a race with normal conditions. Moreover, don't count out the ATESSA ETS as completely obsolete in snow conditions, it can still get the job done and pull out the rear wheels if they start to slip. ie the ATESSA wont leave you stuck either because it is also still a "real" AWD system able to adjust torque in pairs, while torque vectoring does it individually.
Torque vectoring does have an edge as individually monitoring all 4 wheels is more effective in managing and correcting traction. This would probably come in handy in heavier than normal snow conditions to the point you should not even be on the road in the first place, but probably nuanced in a race with normal conditions. Moreover, don't count out the ATESSA ETS as completely obsolete in snow conditions, it can still get the job done and pull out the rear wheels if they start to slip. ie the ATESSA wont leave you stuck either because it is also still a "real" AWD system able to adjust torque in pairs, while torque vectoring does it individually.
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I'm sure there are a group of people at Nissan who wanted to more output from each of the iterations of the Q60 but for whatever reason, they weren't able to do so. I'm guessing it's fleet emissions but I could be wrong.
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not all AWD vehicles with Torque vectoring are always full time AWD all the time, with a constant split of torque between the rear and front wheels. It depends on the manufacturer. There are cars with Torque vectoring who are usually FWD, or RWD, and then individually splits torque to any wheel when slippage is detected. Subaru, is one of the only ones that offer constant torque delivery to all 4 wheels in standard conditions plus the torque vectoring.
Torque vectoring doesn't mean an AWD that is on all the time, that depends on individual manufacturer, it means that torque can be vectored or sent to any individual wheel when slippage is detected. It can be added to AWD cars that are RWD in normal conditions, FWD in normal conditions, or 4WD in normal conditions like Subaru.
Torque vectoring doesn't mean an AWD that is on all the time, that depends on individual manufacturer, it means that torque can be vectored or sent to any individual wheel when slippage is detected. It can be added to AWD cars that are RWD in normal conditions, FWD in normal conditions, or 4WD in normal conditions like Subaru.
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The Suby is 300hp, or 100hp more than the 2.0T Infiniti so not much of an argument there. Hell, My Evo 8 was making 285hp way back in 2005. I had an SSL package, heavies one, and that car was properly quick. I'm sure the 2.0T Infiniti will be a dog, much like the Audi A5 is with the 2.0.