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Old 08-10-2016, 07:22 PM
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I can look away at the electric steering.People are not so receptive because infiniti is trying to be two things its not. Stick to what they are good at.

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Old 08-10-2016, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nisslover
It is ALWAYS so funny to see the last gen owners... I won't say hating... but not so receptive of a new gen model.
I've been hating since 1970. :-)

A little hating no Android Auto. Wish the Q50 / Q60 would be more halo car, closer to a G37 with GTR motor. Lots in the market to look at around $50-60K that I didn't consider before because THEY had electric steering, stereo motor sound, and NO ANDROID AUTO! LMAO

Q50 Might still be my next choice. Depends on the competition and Infiniti.
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:15 PM
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I might have overlooked it, but did anyone read if the RS400 will have LSD?
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer-Bob
I've been hating since 1970. :-)

A little hating no Android Auto. Wish the Q50 / Q60 would be more halo car, closer to a G37 with GTR motor. Lots in the market to look at around $50-60K that I didn't consider before because THEY had electric steering, stereo motor sound, and NO ANDROID AUTO! LMAO

Q50 Might still be my next choice. Depends on the competition and Infiniti.
you know what Nissan should do? sell the engine separately as well. so last gen owners can just do a transplant job without having to buy an entire car.

but that would totally hurt sales for the Q60. Although I do like the Q60's styling alot more now.

If you want that Skyline GTR feel with your current gen, why not just go forced induction on your current naturally aspirated VQ V6. it will cost you though, even if you had the new twin turbo VR V6 for transplant, the G37 (or its VQ for that matter) weren't built for FI. But making 330 HP just NA is pretty remarkable for a V6.

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Old 08-10-2016, 09:57 PM
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HD video of 2017 Q60

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Old 08-10-2016, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KAHBOOM
I might have overlooked it, but did anyone read if the RS400 will have LSD?
It doesn't on the Q50 and the 2017 Q50 doesn't list it either. I would say no for the Q60.
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:53 PM
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It doesn't on the Q50 and the 2017 Q50 doesn't list it either. I would say no for the Q60.
I watched a q50 RS 400 RWD review where there was wheel spin upon accelerator application during a 0-60 time testing. It was noted that the slipping tire/wheel spin was obviously going to cause a false increase in the 0-60 time.

Why Nissan/infiniti did not add LSD to a 400HP RWD car? Not just for 0-60 but other on road practical purposes. The wheel spin was absent in AWD I believe.
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:02 PM
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All the previous g coupes had vlsd I'd think q60 would too
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:58 PM
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Gill, motor swaps aren't for me... well maybe a Scarab. :-) When I said "Wish the Q50 / Q60 would be more halo car, closer to a G37 with GTR motor. "
I'm saying I think the current Q50 is the next G37 and the twin turbo motor is more like a GTR than a G37. But, not as much as the Rouge. Electric steering, is nice for some, even the stereo enhanced exhaust sound may be for some Infiniti buyers. But, I'd prefer Android Auto, another 50hp and LSD instead at this price.
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Old 08-11-2016, 01:25 AM
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Gill, motor swaps aren't for me... well maybe a Scarab. :-) When I said "Wish the Q50 / Q60 would be more halo car, closer to a G37 with GTR motor. "
I'm saying I think the current Q50 is the next G37 and the twin turbo motor is more like a GTR than a G37. But, not as much as the Rouge. Electric steering, is nice for some, even the stereo enhanced exhaust sound may be for some Infiniti buyers. But, I'd prefer Android Auto, another 50hp and LSD instead at this price.
I agree that LSD should have been added to the RWD models. Infiniti could have easily just taken the R35 GTR's engine and just dropped it into the Q50/60, I think they refined it and gave it a smaller displacement to improve MPG for practical daily driver purposes. The R35's MPG is 16/22 city/highway, and the Red Sport has an improved average of 19/26.

I believe that extra power and displacement from the original VR engine was modified to make the car seem more affordable and practical to the everyday driver, because it is much more efficient, while still pumping out a healthy 400HP. I am positive that Nissan/Infiniti could have pushed this new VR much further to achieve greater power, but it may have sacrificed the practicability of cost for the majority of drivers. I am sure third party tuners and Horse power nuts will end up squeezing max power from this formidable new VR block, and I bet Infiniti/Nissan expects people to further tweek the engine, but they have done their job in creating an affordable and decently powered twin turbo setup for majority of drivers. What people do to the power after purchase is their business.

In this regard, taking the time to further refine the VR V6 engine, was worth it and time well spent for Nissan/Infiniti. The greater efficiency while retaining comparable power is a positive end result for the time, effort, and money spent by the company developing this engine.
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by saywat?
All the previous g coupes had vlsd I'd think q60 would too
i dont know..can customers live without it? the video reviews I've seen, a lot of people liked the wheels slipping. They thought it was the car wanting to go sideways and be more aggressive and sporty. did infiniti do it on purpose for this reason??

this guy here is talks about the rear wheel traction, i dont think he realizes there is no LSD. @1:55

this one talks about how the car "wants to kick out the rear end." again most likely due to lack of LSD @4:15

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Old 08-11-2016, 07:24 AM
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With that much power and torque LSD is a benefit when pulling out assertively in traffic situations - especially tight right turns.
I bet they are using active trace control/ braking to compensate for no LSD. But it's just not the same; it doesn't work as consistently.
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Old 08-11-2016, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by saywat?
All the previous g coupes had vlsd I'd think q60 would too
I would have thought the same too man.
But I also would have thought they would have kept extended thigh bolsters, a fuller stock exhaust note (instead of video game exhaust sounds through the speakers), hydraulic steering option, signature rounded tails etc

It seems they are trying to depart from the previous generations with the new coupe.

LSD was one of the major selling points for me vs the 335 which didn't have it as an option. But what do I know. The 3 series sells like hot cakes
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Old 08-11-2016, 07:03 PM
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without the LSD, I would say the Q is basically a pure and raw RWD car.
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Old 08-11-2016, 09:07 PM
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without the LSD, I would say the Q is basically a pure and raw RWD car.
Can't believe they got rid of LSD and 6mt and replaced it with DAS. And everyone hates DAS.
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