Q60 Final Teaser - Revealed in Detroit
#2073
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a 2013 G37 Sedan 6MT weighs 3709 pounds
a Q50 Red Sport 400 weighs 3853. The thing gained 144lbs in 3 years.
The only thing saving this Q50 is the 350ft/lbs of torque at 1600rpm.
I wouldnt even bother with that AWD. That thing is a real porker. I would just figure out a way to stuff 305mm Michelin Pilot Supers out back.
a Q50 Red Sport 400 weighs 3853. The thing gained 144lbs in 3 years.
The only thing saving this Q50 is the 350ft/lbs of torque at 1600rpm.
I wouldnt even bother with that AWD. That thing is a real porker. I would just figure out a way to stuff 305mm Michelin Pilot Supers out back.
As an old guy, that has been watching / living this story for 40+ years, I'm at a loss to understand, now that Nissan has a TT "G", why they would cut back on the engine displacement by 20% and limit the boost? -Unless they have another higher performance model planned?
#2074
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Once again I think everyone is losing site that the Q60 is a GT Luxury Coupe, not a light weight tin box. I'd much rather have my car be a tad slower but hear a joyful "Thud" when I close the door, than being slightly faster and hear a "Ding" when I close the door. Not too mention the ride/comfort/interior of a Q60 vs say a 370Z.
If you want something close to the current displacement with a TT ..... go buy a GT-R.
If you want something close to the current displacement with a TT ..... go buy a GT-R.
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2016 BMW 340i xDrive Sedan Automatic Curb Weight 3720 lbs
2016 BMW 435i xDrive Coupe Automatic Transmission Curb Weight 3775 lbs
2016 Audi S5 Coupe 3.0 Manual Transmission Curb Weight 3858 lbs
2016 Mercedes C300 4MATIC Sedan Automatic Transmission Curb weight 3594 lbs
2016 Mercedes 2016 C450 AMG Sport Sedan Automatic Transmission Curb weight 3748 lbs
2015 Mercedes C350 Coupe Automatic Transmission Curb Weight 3693 lbs
2016 Lexus RC 350 F Sport AWD Automatic Transmission Curb Weight 3891 lbs
2016 Infiniti Q50 Red Sport 400 Automatic Transmission Curb Weight 3853 lbs
2016 Infiniti Q50 Red Sport 400 AWD Automatic Transmission Curb Weight 4005 lbs
There is no way around it, 4005 lbs is the heaviest of the bunch. Just a little disappointing.
2016 BMW 435i xDrive Coupe Automatic Transmission Curb Weight 3775 lbs
2016 Audi S5 Coupe 3.0 Manual Transmission Curb Weight 3858 lbs
2016 Mercedes C300 4MATIC Sedan Automatic Transmission Curb weight 3594 lbs
2016 Mercedes 2016 C450 AMG Sport Sedan Automatic Transmission Curb weight 3748 lbs
2015 Mercedes C350 Coupe Automatic Transmission Curb Weight 3693 lbs
2016 Lexus RC 350 F Sport AWD Automatic Transmission Curb Weight 3891 lbs
2016 Infiniti Q50 Red Sport 400 Automatic Transmission Curb Weight 3853 lbs
2016 Infiniti Q50 Red Sport 400 AWD Automatic Transmission Curb Weight 4005 lbs
There is no way around it, 4005 lbs is the heaviest of the bunch. Just a little disappointing.
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Once again I think everyone is losing site that the Q60 is a GT Luxury Coupe, not a light weight tin box. I'd much rather have my car be a tad slower but hear a joyful "Thud" when I close the door, than being slightly faster and hear a "Ding" when I close the door. Not too mention the ride/comfort/interior of a Q60 vs say a 370Z.
If you want something close to the current displacement with a TT ..... go buy a GT-R.
If you want something close to the current displacement with a TT ..... go buy a GT-R.
#2080
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#2082
Other than that g37 seems to be solid against its competitors of the same era.
I don't know about the reliability of the new bmw, audis but I think their reliability is much better these days. So reliability argument still needs to be tested.
Price? I don't know about q60 pricing hence can not comment on it yet I believe the difference will probably be around 5K for the same equipment with its competitors.
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We have a 2014 335i w/Sport package 4-door in the family with zero reliability issues thus far but I crossed shopped more than a few of the Germans, mostly the S4/S5 and the M3. A lot of the S4 and 2013 S5's can have thermostat issues which require the entire supercharger get pulled for access purposes. That's a bit over a grand to do that job.
The V8 S5 has major carbon build-up issues but is otherwise fairly solid from a mechanical standpoint although some of the ancillary items like steering pumps or a/c issues seem to pop up frequently. Then there's the electronics on the Audis. Can be a real nightmare. With that said, I drove a 2012 S5 with 80K on the odometer just to see how it held up. It was cared for by the local dealer and I have to admit, the car was rock solid and did not feel like it had 80K or anywhere close to it. Everything was still very solid on the car.
The M3? E90/2/3 chassis...(I wouldn't touch an E46 with a 10-ft poll) it has a list of issues longer than my arm and not a car you should own without a comprehensive extended warranty. Pick your car and add at least $3.5K to the price to cover a decent warranty, possibly even quite a bit more than that. The two major issues are the DCT transmission, specifically leaking, and the other issue is bearings. Some swear it's not a wide-spread problem but lots of evidence shows excessive wear in as little as 30K miles. There have been 2013's, low mileage, which have gotten the dreaded lower end "knock". Best case, you catch it prior to the engine seizing. Despite all of that, I'd still own an E93.
I knew about the gasket issue with the G prior to purchasing and it's one of the reasons I snatched up a 2013. I have about a year left of full factory coverage and will more than likely buy an extended warranty here soon just for piece of mind (and the fact I do not plan on modding the engine/transmission).
The new coupe is far more complex and I wouldn't be an early adopter. 400hp would be nice but personally, 348hp is doing me just fine. It's enough "FU" power to eliminate bad drivers as an obstacle and make traffic far less of a hassle and keeps me from testing my own mortality on a daily basis. Did that enough when I was younger and lived to tell about it.
The V8 S5 has major carbon build-up issues but is otherwise fairly solid from a mechanical standpoint although some of the ancillary items like steering pumps or a/c issues seem to pop up frequently. Then there's the electronics on the Audis. Can be a real nightmare. With that said, I drove a 2012 S5 with 80K on the odometer just to see how it held up. It was cared for by the local dealer and I have to admit, the car was rock solid and did not feel like it had 80K or anywhere close to it. Everything was still very solid on the car.
The M3? E90/2/3 chassis...(I wouldn't touch an E46 with a 10-ft poll) it has a list of issues longer than my arm and not a car you should own without a comprehensive extended warranty. Pick your car and add at least $3.5K to the price to cover a decent warranty, possibly even quite a bit more than that. The two major issues are the DCT transmission, specifically leaking, and the other issue is bearings. Some swear it's not a wide-spread problem but lots of evidence shows excessive wear in as little as 30K miles. There have been 2013's, low mileage, which have gotten the dreaded lower end "knock". Best case, you catch it prior to the engine seizing. Despite all of that, I'd still own an E93.
I knew about the gasket issue with the G prior to purchasing and it's one of the reasons I snatched up a 2013. I have about a year left of full factory coverage and will more than likely buy an extended warranty here soon just for piece of mind (and the fact I do not plan on modding the engine/transmission).
The new coupe is far more complex and I wouldn't be an early adopter. 400hp would be nice but personally, 348hp is doing me just fine. It's enough "FU" power to eliminate bad drivers as an obstacle and make traffic far less of a hassle and keeps me from testing my own mortality on a daily basis. Did that enough when I was younger and lived to tell about it.
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I was thinking highly of g37 until I realized the Gasket issue. Unfortunately if your gasket fails before or around 60K I can not call that reliable. That is pretty much e46 BMW bad(even most e46 bmw's didnt have a problem until 75-80k+ and a simple water pump change actually prevented it). That the shtty paint on a luxury vehicle is also unacceptable.
Other than that g37 seems to be solid against its competitors of the same era.
I don't know about the reliability of the new bmw, audis but I think their reliability is much better these days. So reliability argument still needs to be tested.
Price? I don't know about q60 pricing hence can not comment on it yet I believe the difference will probably be around 5K for the same equipment with its competitors.
Other than that g37 seems to be solid against its competitors of the same era.
I don't know about the reliability of the new bmw, audis but I think their reliability is much better these days. So reliability argument still needs to be tested.
Price? I don't know about q60 pricing hence can not comment on it yet I believe the difference will probably be around 5K for the same equipment with its competitors.
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